Electric Force vector components

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric force on a 1 nC charge, with the solution involving vector components. Initially, the user incorrectly applied the Pythagorean theorem while determining the force components, leading to an erroneous result. After identifying the mistake, the user recalculated the components using the correct formula, ultimately arriving at the correct force components of 0 N in the X direction and approximately 1.14*10^-5 N in the Y direction. The final answer was confirmed as correct after the recalculation. The thread emphasizes the importance of proper application of physics equations in solving electric force problems.
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[SOLVED] Electric Force

Homework Statement


http://session.masteringphysics.com/problemAsset/1001926/10/knight_Figure_25_46.jpg

What is the force F on the 1 nC charge at the bottom?
Write your answer as two vector components, separated by a comma. Express each component numerically, in Newtons, to three significant figures.

Homework Equations


F = kq1q2 / r^2
a^2 + b^2 = c^2
Sine Law

The Attempt at a Solution


As a reference, the "focus" charge is the 1nC at the bottom.
Note that this appears to be a semicircle. Due to this fact, I conclude that the distance between the focus charge and the -6nC is also 5cm.

Because both 2nC charges have the same charge, distance, and angle with respect to the origin (Focus), I conclude that they cancel each other out along the X axis. They will both push the focus downwards, however there should be no X axis movement. Since the -6nC charge is along the Y axis, I conclude that this charge will not affect the focus' net X force either.

Therefore, F_x = 0

The force given between the 2nC on the left, and the focus, is F = kq1q2 / r^2
Where:
k = 9*10^9
q1 = 1*10^-9 (Focus)
q2 = 2*10^-9 (Leftmost charge)
r = 5cm = 0.05m

F = 0.0000072

Due to Sine Law, the X and Y components of this force are equivalent, since the angle is at 45 degrees.
Sqrt(X^2 + Y^2) = F^2
Sqrt(2Y^2) = F^2
2Y^2 = F^4
Y^2 = (F^4)/2
Y = Sqrt((F^4)/2)
Y = 3.6656415536710623664939771731515 * 10^-11

Since the rightmost charge is identical with respect to the focus, it will put out the same force along the Y axis.

Now to include the -6nC charge. F = kq1q2 / r^2
Where:
k = 9*10^9
q1 = 1*10^-9
q2 = -6*10^-9
r = 0.05

F = -0.0000216

So, the net force on the focus should be:
= "-6nC" + "2nC:Y" + "2nC:Y"
= "-6nC" + 2*"2nC:Y"
= -0.0000216 + 2*3.6656415536710623664939771731515 * 10^-11
= -0.00002159992668716892657875268
Rounded to 3 significant digits is 2.16*10^-5

Expressing answer as asked:
0,2.16*10^-5

This answer is incorrect.
My mistake is where?
 
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Goldenwind said:
Due to Sine Law, the X and Y components of this force are equivalent, since the angle is at 45 degrees.
Sqrt(X^2 + Y^2) = F^2
That should be:
X^2 + Y^2 = F^2
Sqrt(2Y^2) = F^2
2Y^2 = F^4
Y^2 = (F^4)/2
Y = Sqrt((F^4)/2)
Y = 3.6656415536710623664939771731515 * 10^-11
Redo this.
 
Doc Al said:
That should be:
X^2 + Y^2 = F^2

Redo this.
I just messed up the pythagorean theorem. Holy crap I'm embarassed.
Thank-you.

Recalculating.
 
X^2 + Y^2 = F^2
2Y^2 = F^2
Y^2 = (F^2)/2
Y = Sqrt((F^2)/2)
Y = Sqrt((F^2)/2)
Y = 0.00000509116882454314217568607

...

= "-6nC" + 2*"2nC:Y"
= -0.0000216 + 2*0.00000509116882454314217568607
= -0.0000114176623509137156486278 * 10^-5
Rounded to 3 significant digits is -1.14*10^-5

Expressing answer as asked:
0,1.14*10^-5

This answer is correct.
Thank-you Doc Al :)
 
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