Electric Potential Homework: Find ∆V from E = 2xî - 3y²j N/C

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The electric field is defined as E = 2xî - 3y²j N/C, and the task is to find the change in electric potential (∆V) between two points, RA = î - 2j and RB = 2î + j + 3k. The solution involves calculating the line integral of the electric field along a path from RA to RB, expressed as ∆V = - ∫ E • ds. A common mistake noted is equating the vector difference ∆R to its magnitude, which is incorrect; instead, the focus should be on the vector components for the integral. The problem emphasizes that the electric field is conservative, allowing for path independence in the calculation of potential difference.
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Homework Statement


An electric field is given by E = 2xî - 3y²j N/C. Find the change in potential from the position RA = î - 2j M to RB = 2î + j +3k m.


Homework Equations


∆V = VA - VB = - ∫ E • ds (definite integral from A to B)
Or in a uniform field, simply:
∆V = VA - VB = ±Ed

The Attempt at a Solution


I know from the solutions manual that the answer is +6 Volts.

I began by finding ∆R = RB - RA = i + 3j + 3k m.
That can easily be converted into ∆R = √19 right?

My problem comes in when I have to deal with E = 2xî - 3y²j N/C... what do I do with the square on the y?

Thank you once again.
 
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Have you had much experience with line integrals? Oh well...let me address specific aspects of your solution attempt first:

thepassenger48 said:

The Attempt at a Solution


I know from the solutions manual that the answer is +6 Volts.

I began by finding ∆R = RB - RA = i + 3j + 3k m.
That can easily be converted into ∆R = √19 right?


Not exactly. Be careful! \mathbf{r_A} and \mathbf{r_B} are vectors! So you were correct in stating that:

\mathbf{\Delta r } = \mathbf{r_B - r_A} = \mathbf{\hat{i}} + 3\mathbf{\hat{j}} + 3\mathbf{\hat{k}}.

But it doesn't make sense to say that \mathbf{\Delta r } = \sqrt{19}, because you're equating a vector to a scalar! Really, what you calculated was the magnitude of \mathbf{\Delta r }:

|\mathbf{\Delta r}| = \sqrt{19}

Unfortunately, I don't think that this is going to be of much use to you in solving the problem! I wouldn't start with calculating the difference between the two vectors, because to calculate the potential difference, you need to calculate the line integral of the electric field over some path between \mathbf{r_A} and \mathbf{r_B}. You correctly wrote:

\Delta V = V(\mathbf{r_B}) - V(\mathbf{r_A}) = - \int_{\mathbf{r_A}}^{\mathbf{r_B}}{\mathbf{E} \cdot d\mathbf{l}}

But then...

thepassenger48 said:
My problem comes in when I have to deal with E = 2xî - 3y²j N/C... what do I do with the square on the y?

...this indicates you're stuck. But if you haven't calculated too many line integrals or taken vector calculus, don't despair. There is a half-assed, "physics" way to interpret it :smile:

Think of d\mathbf{l} as an infinitesimal vector that points "along" the direction of the path at any point on the path. Then:

d\mathbf{l} = dx\mathbf{\hat{i}} + dy\mathbf{\hat{j}} + dz\mathbf{\hat{k}}

Therefore, you can calculate:

\mathbf{E} \cdot d\mathbf{l} = (2x\mathbf{\hat{i}} - 3y^2 \mathbf{\hat{j}}) \cdot (dx\mathbf{\hat{i}} + dy\mathbf{\hat{j}} + dz\mathbf{\hat{k}} ) = ?

your integral will turn into two integrals, one wrt x and the other wrt y, and you're off to the races. :smile:
 
Uh, looking at the question again, I think I made the further assumption that since the E-field is a conservative vector field, then the answer is path independent, so you can simply use your starting and ending x & y points as limits of integration for each integral (i.e., take the straight line path).
 
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