How Do You Calculate Electric Potential from a Field Graph?

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The discussion revolves around calculating electric potential from a field graph, specifically addressing a homework problem involving the x component of the electric field. The initial attempt to solve for the electric potential at x = 2.0 m was incorrect due to misunderstanding the nature of the electric field, which is not constant. Participants emphasized the importance of integrating the electric field correctly, noting that the area under the curve represents the integral. The correct approach involves recognizing the height of the triangle formed by the graph, which corresponds to the electric field value. The final consensus is that the correct potential at x = 2.0 m is 61.5 V, after proper integration and understanding of the field's behavior.
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1. Homework Statement :

A graph of the x component of the electric field as a function of x in a region of space is shown in the figure [attached] below. The scale of the vertical axis is set by Exs = 47.5 N/C. The y and z components of the electric field are zero in this region. Suppose that the electric potential at the origin is 14 V.

(a) What is the electric potential at x = 2.0 m
(b) What is the greatest positive value of the electric potential for points on the x axis for which
0 ≤ x ≤ 6.0 m?
(c) For what value of x is the electric potential zero?

Homework Equations

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V_f-V_i=-\int_{i}^{f} \vec E \cdot d \vec s

The Attempt at a Solution

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For part (a), I began by substituting in the appropriate values.
$$V_f-14=-\int_{0}^{2} E~d x$$
After integrating, I got
$$V_f-14=-E\left( 2 \right)$$
Finally, I substituted -47.5 in for E and solved for Vf.
$$V_f=47.5\left( 2 \right)+14=109$$

The answer I got was incorrect, though, and I can't see where I went wrong. I haven't really attempted parts (b) or (c) yet.
 

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I think you need to check how you performed your integration. The value of E is not constant over the distance.

Hint: Think of the integral as the area "under" the curve. In the case of part (a), the area of interest stretches from x = 0 to x = 2 m.

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gneill said:
I think you need to check how you performed your integration. The value of E is not constant over the distance.

Hint: Think of the integral as the area "under" the curve. In the case of part (a), the area of interest stretches from x = 0 to x = 2 m.

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Oh crap, I completely ignored that the electric field isn't constant. So if the integral of dx is the area of a triangle, would the height just be 1?
 
dect117 said:
Oh crap, I completely ignored that the electric field isn't constant. So if the integral of dx is the area of a triangle, would the height just be 1?
The "height" is determined by the scale of the vertical axis, and where on the curve your triangle vertex lies.
 
gneill said:
The "height" is determined by the scale of the vertical axis, and where on the curve your triangle vertex lies.
So h = -47.5? If so, I get $$V_f-14=-\frac 1 2 E b h=-\frac 1 2 \left( -47.5 \right)^2 \left( 2 \right)$$ which doesn't yield the correct answer. Isn't the value of E also -47.5?
 
If h = 1, then I get $$V_f-14=-\frac 1 2 \left( -47.5 \right) \left( 2 \right)=47.5$$ $$V_f=47.5+14=61.5$$ which WebAssign says is the correct answer to part (a). I am very confused. lol
 
dect117 said:
If h = 1, then I get $$V_f-14=-\frac 1 2 \left( -47.5 \right) \left( 2 \right)=47.5$$ $$V_f=47.5+14=61.5$$ which WebAssign says is the correct answer to part (a). I am very confused. lol

I don't understand your use of "h". In your work you use -47.5 N/C for the "height" of the triangle, not 1 N/C.
 
gneill said:
I don't understand your use of "h". In your work you use -47.5 N/C for the "height" of the triangle, not 1 N/C.
E = -47.5, no? If so, then -47.5 will be squared if h is also equal to -47.5.
 
dect117 said:
E = -47.5, no? If so, then -47.5 will be squared if h is also equal to -47.5.
Um, no. If the vertex is at E = -47.5 N/C, then that is the "height" of the triangle. h is not a separate variable here, it simply represents the height of the triangle under consideration. In this case, for part (a) of the problem, the height of the triangle happens to be -47.5 N/C.
 
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