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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a circuit analysis problem involving series and parallel resistor combinations, applying Ohm's law and Kirchhoff's laws. Participants are attempting to calculate equivalent resistance, current, and voltage drops across various components in the circuit.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants discuss the calculation of total current using the formula V=IR and the equivalent resistance of the circuit.
  • One participant requests clarification on the series and parallel combinations used to determine the equivalent resistance.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for detailed steps in the calculations to assess correctness.
  • One participant provides a detailed breakdown of their calculations for equivalent resistance and current, including voltage drops across specific resistors.
  • Another participant agrees with the calculated equivalent resistance but notes a slight difference in the total current and voltage drop values, suggesting further calculations based on these adjustments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the final values for current and voltage drops, as participants present slightly differing calculations and interpretations of the circuit analysis. Multiple competing views remain regarding the accuracy of the calculations and the assumptions made.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of their calculations, and there are indications of missing assumptions or steps in the reasoning process. The discussion reflects ongoing refinement of ideas rather than settled conclusions.

Mark Nussbaum

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


V=IR
kirchoff's Voltage/current law

The Attempt at a Solution


Going off the answer i got correct, 65V / 138.1788Ohms (Req of total circuit) for a total current of .47A. I think this is where i messed up but don't know how to continue...
 
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Mark Nussbaum said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


V=IR
kirchoff's Voltage/current law

The Attempt at a Solution


Going off the answer i got correct, 65V / 138.1788Ohms (Req of total circuit) for a total current of .47A. I think this is where i messed up but don't know how to continue...
Can you describe the series & parallel combinations you used to the right of the dashed line to get the equivalent resistance?
 
You really need to show the steps that you took to get the 4 answers. Otherwise, we have no idea if you're on the right track on not.
 
berkeman said:
Can you describe the series & parallel combinations you used to the right of the dashed line to get the equivalent resistance?
For Req to the right of the dashed line,
R3+R4=385 Ohms
1/(1/R2+1/385) = 91.4 Ohms
91.4 Ohms + 70 Ohms = 161.4 Ohms

This is in parallel with the 50 Ohms resistor so i combined them with
1/(1/50+1/161.4)=38.17 Ohms
then adding in series with the 100 Ohms a total of 138.17 Ohms.

Using the total resistance I divided the voltage source to find the current,
65V/138.17 Ohms =.47A

After that I calculated the voltage drop across the 100 Ohms resistor V=IR
V=.47 A*100 Ohms= 47 Volts

Since the other resistor is in parallel with the Req on the right side of the dashed line I assumed the same voltage would go to each branch
65-47=18V

After that I calculated the current that went through the 50 Ohm resistor
18V/50 Ohms= .36A
so the remaining would run through the other branch

Once again calculating voltage drop across R1
V=.11 A * 70 Ohms = 7.7 V

and since R2 is in parallel with R3/4 I assumed this voltage would V2
 
Your calc for Req is correct.

When you put that in parallel with the 50 ohms and get the series resistance, that too is correct. However, I get 0.4704 A.

The drop thru the 100 ohm resistor is 47.04 V (or 47 in your case). This leaves 17.96 V for V2, which is close enough to the 18 V you came up with.

The next step is to continue the calculation based on 17.96 V and the equivalent resistance to the right of V2 (161.485 ohms).

This gives you a current of 0.111 A, leading to a voltage drop across the 70 ohm resistor of 7.79 V. I think this is what you put for V2, when it is really the drop across that resistor. The resulting V2 is 17.96 – 7.79 or 10.17 V.

This will naturally change your value for i4.
 

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