Electron Distribution in a Simple Circuit

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In a simple circuit with a lamp and power source, current flows from negative to positive, but there is no higher concentration of electrons before the lamp compared to after it, as current is contiguous throughout the circuit. This principle is explained by Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL), which emphasizes the continuity of current. The voltage across the bulb is not due to a difference in electron concentration but rather the energy difference provided by the power source. Textbooks and educational resources discuss charge distribution in circuits, although peer-reviewed articles on such basic concepts are rare. Understanding these fundamentals is crucial for grasping electric circuit behavior.
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Hi guys,

I'm trying break down a simple circuit composed of a lamp and a power source down to it's basics.

So, I know that the current will flow from negative to positive. However, is it correct to say that there are more electrons before the lamp than there is after the bulb? This difference in concentration of electrons is what causes the voltage across the bulb.

I know that the electrons will be moving at the same rate at all points in the circuit, but is there a higher concentration of electrons before they "meet" the bulb than after the bulb?

I know some of you will laugh at such a simple question, but it's something that's been annoying me.
 
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JakeyG14 said:
Hi guys,

I'm trying break down a simple circuit composed of a lamp and a power source down to it's basics.

So, I know that the current will flow from negative to positive. However, is it correct to say that there are more electrons before the lamp than there is after the bulb? This difference in concentration of electrons is what causes the voltage across the bulb.

I know that the electrons will be moving at the same rate at all points in the circuit, but is there a higher concentration of electrons before they "meet" the bulb than after the bulb?

I know some of you will laugh at such a simple question, but it's something that's been annoying me.

Welcome to the PF.

No. the current is contiguous. There is a circuit analysis technique that uses this continuity -- it's called Kirchoff's Current Law (KCL). You can look it up on wikipedia.org to learn more...
 
<< URL deleted by berkeman >>I hope this qualifies as a valid reference. It has pictures of charge distribution in DC circuits.

PS: berkeman would you please reply to my pm, thanks
 
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Cheers guys.

I'll definitely take a look at the aforementioned links.
 
Delta Kilo said:
<< URL deleted by berkeman >>I hope this qualifies as a valid reference. It has pictures of charge distribution in DC circuits.

PS: berkeman would you please reply to my pm, thanks

No, sorry. That self-published paper has problems, so I deleted the reference to it. If you can find a similar paper published in a mainstream peer-reviewed scientific journal, then we will allow it.

I did reply to your PM just now.
 
"Electric Circuits & Networks" By Suresh Kumar, Kumar K. S. Suresh
http://books.google.com/books?id=ZzeXM-IQnIUC&&pg=PA9

See page 9:
1.2 "A voltage source with a resistance connected at its terminals",
1.2.1 "Steady-state charge distribution in the system"
Figure 1.2-1 "Steady-state with a resistance connected across DC voltage"

berkeman, this is a textbook, if this does not qualify, I don't know what is.
Sorry I could not find anything available online in peer-reviewed journals because these kind of things are so basic and well studied they no longer appear in peer-reviewed journals. They do appear in textbooks and teaching aids though.

I believe Feynman has addressed this subject in his lectures but I do not have access to them at the moment so I cannot quote the exact page/paragraph. I'll look it up later.

The following papers appear to deal directly with subject, unfortunately I do not have access to them either:
Rosser, W. G. V., 1963, What makes an electric current “flow”, American Journal of Physics, 31,884 - 885.
Rosser, W. G. V., 1970, Magnitudes of surface charge distributions associated with electric current flow, American Journal of Physics, 38, 265 - 266.
 
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