Electron equations of motion through an uniform magnetic field

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The discussion focuses on deriving the equations of motion for an electron moving through a uniform magnetic field. The Lorentz force is identified as the only force acting on the electron, leading to the formulation of differential equations for the velocity components Vx, Vy, and Vz. The correct approach involves decomposing the Lorentz force into its components, which results in a set of equations that describe circular motion. The conservation of kinetic energy is emphasized, noting that the electron's speed remains constant despite changes in direction. Ultimately, the solution confirms that the electron's trajectory is indeed circular, validating the initial hypothesis.
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Homework Statement



An electron enters a zone of uniform magnetic field \vec B = 0,4T{\rm{ }}\hat j with velocity {\vec V_0} = {10^5}m/s{\rm{ }}\hat i. Find the differential equations that govern its motion through the field, and solve them to find the equations of motion. What happens to its kinetic energy?

Homework Equations



- Lorentz Force = q\vec V \otimes \vec B
- Newton's Second Law = \sum {\vec F} = m\frac{{{\partial ^2}\vec r}}{{\partial {t^2}}}
- Conservation of Kinetic Energy = \Delta {E_k} = {W_{all{\rm{ }}forces}}


The Attempt at a Solution



I know that the answer should be that the electron's trajectory is a circle. But I can't get there throught the differential equations:

If I don't take the electron's weight into account, I have that the only force acting upon it is the Lorentz Force. Using Newton's Second Law:

\vec F = q\vec V \otimes \vec B = m\frac{{d\vec V}}{{dt}}
-0 = m\frac{{d{V_x}}}{{dt}}
-0 = m\frac{{d{V_y}}}{{dt}}
-q{V_x}B = m\frac{{d{V_z}}}{{dt}}

Then

-{V_x} = {10^5}m/s
-{V_y} = 0
-\frac{{q{V_x}B}}{m}t = {V_z}

I know there's something wrong: since the only force acting upon the electron is the Lorentz Force, being a central force (perpendicular to the trajectory), it doesn't do any work, the kinetic energy conserves and therefore the module of V should be constant. Which doesn't happen if the solution I found is true (I know it's wrong).

What's wrong with my resolution?

Thanks.
 
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You can not assume that the x component of the velocity stays constant. Decompose the Lorentz force into all components, assuming non-zero components of velocity, and discuss what you got.

ehild
 
You say that instead of keeping the Lorentz Force this way:

\vec F = q\vec V \otimes \vec B = q{V_x}B{\rm{ }}\hat i

I should rewrite the Lorentz Force this way?:

\vec F = q\vec V \otimes \vec B = q\left| {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}}<br /> {\hat i} &amp; {\hat j} &amp; {\hat k} \\<br /> {{V_x}} &amp; {{V_y}} &amp; {{V_z}} \\<br /> 0 &amp; B &amp; 0 \\<br /> \end{array}} \right| = - q{V_z}B{\rm{ }}\hat i + q{V_x}B{\rm{ }}\hat k
 
It is correct. Now you can set up the differential equations for Vx, Vy and Vz.

ehild
 
Could somebody correct me if I'm wrong?

Given the new set of differential equations:

\begin{array}{l}<br /> \frac{{d{V_x}}}{{dt}} = \frac{{q{V_z}B}}{m} \\ <br /> \frac{{d{V_y}}}{{dt}} = 0 \\ <br /> \frac{{d{V_z}}}{{dt}} = \frac{{q{V_x}B}}{m} \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

I calculate:

\begin{array}{l}<br /> {V_z} = \left( {\frac{{d{V_x}}}{{dt}}} \right)\frac{m}{{qB}} \\ <br /> {V_y} = 0 \\ <br /> \frac{{d{V_z}}}{{dt}} = \frac{{q{V_x}B}}{m} \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

\begin{array}{l}<br /> {V_z} = \left( {\frac{{d{V_x}}}{{dt}}} \right)\frac{m}{{qB}} \\ <br /> {V_y} = 0 \\ <br /> \frac{{d\left( {\frac{{d{V_x}}}{{dt}}\frac{m}{{qB}}} \right)}}{{dt}} = \frac{{q{V_x}B}}{m} \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

\begin{array}{l}<br /> {V_z} = \left( {\frac{{d{V_x}}}{{dt}}} \right)\frac{m}{{qB}} \\ <br /> {V_y} = 0 \\ <br /> \frac{{{d^2}{V_x}}}{{d{t^2}}}\frac{m}{{qB}} = \frac{{q{V_x}B}}{m} \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

\begin{array}{l}<br /> {V_z} = \left( {\frac{{d{V_x}}}{{dt}}} \right)\frac{m}{{qB}} \\ <br /> {V_y} = 0 \\ <br /> \frac{{{d^2}{V_x}}}{{d{t^2}}} = \frac{{{q^2}{B^2}}}{{{m^2}}}{V_x} \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

I propose the solution for Vx (should I include the 50 that way?):

{V_x} = 50\cos \left( {\frac{{qB}}{m}t} \right)<br />

Then I solve that:

\begin{array}{l}<br /> {V_x} = 50\cos \left( {\frac{{qB}}{m}t} \right) \\ <br /> {V_y} = 0 \\ <br /> {V_z} = - 50\sin \left( {\frac{{qB}}{m}t} \right) \\ <br /> \end{array}<br /> <br />

I will get a similar expression for rx, ry and rz, which translates (I think) into the equation of a circle.

Is this OK?
 
Just a small mistake:

<br /> <br /> \frac{dV_x}{dt} = -\frac{qV_zB}{m} <br />

ehild
 
Thank you very much.
 
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