Eliminating x in Lorentz Transformation

In summary, the conversation discusses the elimination of x from the Lorentz factor equations x = y(x'+vt') and x' = y(x-vt), resulting in the equation t = y(t'+vx'/c^2). The process involves substituting x' into the x value and manipulating the equations to get an expression for t. The correct expression is t = (gamma(t'+vx'/c^2) = (gamma(t'+vx'/c^2) + (gamma(t'+vx'/c^2) = (gamma(t'+vx'/c^2) + (gamma(t'+vx'/c^2) = (gamma(t'+vx'/c^2) + (gamma(t'+vx'/c
  • #1
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Homework Statement



At the bottom of this page:
http://www.cv.nrao.edu/course/astr534/LorentzTransform.html

It states;
Lorentz factor:
x=y(x'+vt') and x'=y(x−vt)

Eliminating x from this pair of equations yields
t=y(t'+vx'/c^2)
* y =gamma

How did they eliminate x?





The Attempt at a Solution




I'm taking the x value which is y(x'+vt') and substituting this into the x value in the x' equation.

So I'm getting;

x' = y^2(x'+vt')-yvt

Then I've separated the equation so that t is on LHS;

t = [y^2(x' + vt')] / yv

If anyone knows how this is done, I'd be very interested in learning! Thank you. :smile:
 
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  • #2
Your last expression is wrong, it should be:

[tex]t = \frac{(\gamma^2 - 1)x^\prime + \gamma^2 vt^\prime }{\gamma v}[/tex]

Now:

[tex] \gamma^2 = \frac{1}{1-v^2/c^2} [/tex]

[tex] = \frac{c^2}{c^2 - v^2} [/tex]

so that:

[tex] \gamma^2 - 1 = \frac{c^2}{c^2 - v^2} - \frac{c^2 - v^2}{c^2 - v^2} [/tex]

[tex] = \frac{v^2}{c^2 - v^2} = v^2 \frac{\gamma^2}{c^2} [/tex]

Therefore, the above expression becomes:

[tex]t = \frac{v^2\gamma^2 x^\prime}{\gamma vc^2} + \frac{\gamma^2 vt^\prime}{\gamma v}[/tex]

[tex]= \frac{\gamma v x^\prime}{c^2} + \gamma t^\prime[/tex]

[tex] = \gamma(t^\prime + vx^\prime / c^2) [/tex]
 
  • #3
Cheers very much for that.

I understand it now!

Thank you :smile:
 

1. What is the significance of eliminating x in Lorentz Transformation?

The elimination of x in Lorentz Transformation is significant because it allows for the simplification of equations and the understanding of physical phenomena in a more manageable way. It also helps in the derivation of other important equations, such as the time dilation formula.

2. How is x eliminated in Lorentz Transformation?

X is eliminated in Lorentz Transformation using the inverse function of x, which is known as the space-time inversion. This involves swapping the position and time variables in the equations, resulting in the elimination of x and the emergence of the time dilation and length contraction formulas.

3. What implications does eliminating x have on the concept of simultaneity?

The elimination of x in Lorentz Transformation has significant implications on the concept of simultaneity. It shows that two events that appear simultaneous in one frame of reference may not appear simultaneous in another frame of reference. This is known as the relativity of simultaneity.

4. Can x ever be completely eliminated in Lorentz Transformation?

No, x cannot be completely eliminated in Lorentz Transformation. It is a fundamental variable in the equations and plays a crucial role in understanding the relationship between space and time in the theory of special relativity. However, it can be eliminated in specific scenarios, such as when dealing with objects moving at the speed of light.

5. How does eliminating x impact our understanding of the nature of time and space?

The elimination of x in Lorentz Transformation challenges our traditional understanding of time and space as absolute and fixed concepts. It shows that these concepts are relative and can vary depending on the frame of reference. This has significant implications for our understanding of the fundamental laws of the universe.

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