Energy of a Capacitor System with partially inserted Dielectric

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total energy of a capacitor system with a partially inserted dielectric in capacitor C3. The user initially derives the capacitance of C3 and calculates the total capacitance of the system. They express the total energy using the formula for energy in capacitors but question the correctness of their approach compared to the professor's answer. Another participant clarifies that both expressions for energy are equivalent, suggesting that the professor's answer simply incorporates a factor of 1/2 for both components. The conversation emphasizes understanding the relationship between the derived formulas and the professor's solution.
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The above is a capacitor system. A dielectric is inserted into capacitor C3 and I need to find the total energy of the system. The dielectric is not fully in, only partially (lets say a length x).


The Attempt at a Solution



I first found the capacitance of C3 with the dielectric partially inserted. I know that dielectric makes a system of 2 parallel capacitors.

Hence

C3 = \frac{L\epsilon_{0}}{d} (x(\epsilon_{r}-1) + L)

where L is the length and width of the parallel capacitor.

Total capacitance of the system = \frac{(C3 + C2)C1}{C3 + C2 + C1}

To find the total energy, I use the formula 1/2 \times \frac{Q^{2}}{C}

which becomes:

1/2 Q^{2} \times \frac{C3 + C2 + C1}{(C3 + C2)C1}

Does this seem correct? The answer give to me by the professor is:

U =1/2 \frac{Q^{2}}{C1} + \frac{Q^{2}}{C2 + C3}

I'm just kinda whether I'm wrong or the prof is...

Please advise.
 
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Hi saad87! :wink:
saad87 said:
1/2 Q^{2} \times \frac{C3 + C2 + C1}{(C3 + C2)C1}

Does this seem correct? The answer give to me by the professor is:

U =1/2 \frac{Q^{2}}{C1} + \frac{Q^{2}}{C2 + C3}

I'm just kinda whether I'm wrong or the prof is...

Please advise.

erm :redface: … they're the same! (assuming the professor's "1/2" is for both bits) :smile:
 
Really? Could please show me how? I really can't understand how they are equal!

Do we use Partial fractions to expand the fractions or am I way off?
 
1/C1 = (C2 + C3)/(C2 + C3)C1

1/(C2 + C3) = C1/(C2 + C3)C1 :wink:

(generally, 1/a + 1/b = (a + b)/ab )
 
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