How does temperature in Celcius affect enthalpy in a compressed liquid?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between Cv*T=h and the use of Celcius vs Kelvin in a problem. It is noted that the reference state for zero enthalpy is not absolute zero and may vary depending on the table used. The speaker plans to further research the concept of reference state for a better understanding.
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Hello!

I was playing around with a problem and while I was doing it I noticed a similarity between

Cv*T=h by using Celcius and not Kelvin.

So if I have a compressed liquid at say 50°C, looking up at a property table I find the hf to be 209.34 kJ/kg (the pressure is considered to be low). If you take the equation Cv*T, where Cv≈4.18 and T=50°C you get 209 kJ/kg. Doing this with kelvin instead gives a much larger number.

My question is why is the relation here Celcius? Does it have something to do with the saturated water tables being Celcius dependent?
 
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MariusM said:
Hello!

I was playing around with a problem and while I was doing it I noticed a similarity between

Cv*T=h by using Celcius and not Kelvin.

So if I have a compressed liquid at say 50°C, looking up at a property table I find the hf to be 209.34 kJ/kg (the pressure is considered to be low). If you take the equation Cv*T, where Cv≈4.18 and T=50°C you get 209 kJ/kg. Doing this with kelvin instead gives a much larger number.

My question is why is the relation here Celcius? Does it have something to do with the saturated water tables being Celcius dependent?
The reference state for zero enthalpy is typically not taken as absolute zero. You have to look up in your table the specific reference state that they use for zero enthalpy. This information is usually given on the first page of the table at the very top. Or, you can look at the numbers in the table until you find a set of conditions where h is zero.

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Thank you very much for your informative reply! I will read more upon the subject of reference state regarding zero enthalpy so I'll hopefully get a full comprehension of this.
 

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Entropy is a measure of the disorder or randomness in a system. In scientific terms, it is the amount of energy in a system that is no longer available to do work.

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