Equation (with polar coordinates) of circle on a sphere

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a circle on a sphere defined by two points, P0 and P1, with known spherical coordinates. The distance between these points is calculated using a specific formula involving arccosine, but the user seeks a simpler algebraic solution for the circle's equation. Suggestions include rotating the coordinate system to align with P0 and using vector analysis to define the circle in the plane perpendicular to the vector at P0. Ultimately, a solution is referenced that utilizes parametric equations for circles in three-dimensional space. The conversation concludes with acknowledgment of the complexity involved but indicates that a workable approach has been identified.
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hi,
i'm a newbie...
i have this problem:
i have a sphere with known and constant R (obvious),
i have two point with spherical coordinates
P1=(R,p_1,t_1) and P0=(R, p_0, t_0)
p_x = phi x = latitude x
t_x = theta x =longitude x
the distance between point is
D= R*arccos[cos(p_0)*cos(p_1)+sin(p_0)*sin(p_1)*cos(t_1-t_0)]
source (http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/51882.html)
or similar (http://www.movable-type.co.uk/scripts/latlong.html)

but in spherical coordinates which is explicit formula of the
circle on sphere with center in P0 and radius P0 to P1 ?

many thanks
mario

PS image on this link
https://www.dropbox.com/s/807dqx0wovvw34v/2015-03-24_213647.png?dl=0

PSS i cannot understand if this is the same problem ...
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...ven-two-points-on-circle.571535/#post-3732362
 
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I take it P0 and P1 are both on a sphere radius R centered at the origin?
You want the spherical-polar coordinates for a circle center P0 that passes through P1?

There are a number of ways to construct it - i.e. you can rotate the axes to that the z axis goes through P0, work out the formula, then rotate back.
What have you tried?
 
Simon Bridge said:
I take it P0 and P1 are both on a sphere radius R centered at the origin?
yes
You want the spherical-polar coordinates for a circle center P0 that passes through P1?
yes

There are a number of ways to construct it - i.e. you can rotate the axes to that the z axis goes through P0, work out the formula, then rotate back.
What have you tried?

i have tried many way (intersection plane A x + B y + C z = D with sphere x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = R^2, intersect cylinder (or cone) with sphere) but I'm searching the simpliest algebrically solution ...

PS soultion with programs like Wolframalpha or Derive for R*arccos[cos(p_0)*cos(p_1)+sin(p_0)*sin(p_1)*cos(t_1-t_0)] - D = 0 are to complex and give not the correct solution
 
How about this:
If P0 is at ##\vec r_0## and P1 is at ##\vec r_1## then these two vectors form a plane.
The circle you want is in the plane perpendicular to ##\vec r_0## that contains the point P1.
The radius of the circle in that plane is given by Pythagoras ... sketch out the vectors and you should see what I mean.
 
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Solution found!
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all on http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/ParametricEquationOfACircleIn3D/
thanks Mr. Simon !
 
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Technically that is not the equation you asked for, but you can certainly use it to find the one you asked for.
 
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