Equilibrium of a Rigid Body question

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The discussion revolves around finding the weight of an object that will maintain equilibrium for a solid uniform disk with a hole drilled through it. Participants are trying to determine the correct approach to calculate the torque, noting that the hole can be treated as a negative mass. There is confusion regarding the use of sine and cosine in the torque equations, with some suggesting that the angle should be adjusted to reflect the geometry of the problem. The key point is that the net torque must equal zero for equilibrium, leading to a reevaluation of the trigonometric functions used in the calculations. Ultimately, the consensus leans towards using cosine for the angle in the torque equations.
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The solid uniform disk of radius b shown can turn freely on an axle through its center. A hole of diameter D is drilled through the disk; its center is a distance r from the axle. The weight of the material drilled out is Fwh. Find the weight of an object hung from a string wound on the disk that will hold the disk at equilibrium in the position shown.

I really can't figure this one out. I use the center as the axle but I can't find what the distance from the axle would be for the center of mass since the hole drilled in moves it from the center. Can anyone give me a hint to get me started?
 

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Hint: A hole (no mass) can mathematically be thought of as the sum of a positive mass plus a negative mass.
 
So I want to set up an equation where the torque from the weight is equal to the torque of the full disk minus the torque of the hole?
 
The net torque must be zero. The torque from the "negative mass" hole will be in the opposite direction than that of a positive mass "hole".
 
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OK so i work out the equation

(Fw)= - (r/b)(Fwh) sin theta.

Unfortunately, the answer has it being cos theta as well as there being no negative sign which makes more sense.

How I worked it out was

(Fw)(b) sin 90 = torque of the plate with hole = torque of the entire thing - torque of hole

(Fw)(b) = 0 - (Fwh)(r)(sin theta)

(Fw)= - (r/b)(Fwh) sin theta

Where did I go wrong?
 
Lamoid said:
How I worked it out was

(Fw)(b) sin 90 = torque of the plate with hole = torque of the entire thing - torque of hole
The net torque must be zero, so that should be:
(Fw)(b) sin 90 + torque of the plate with hole = 0
or:
(Fw)(b) sin 90 + torque of the entire thing - torque of hole = 0

That will get rid of the negative sign.

(Fw)(b) = 0 - (Fwh)(r)(sin theta)

(Fw)= - (r/b)(Fwh) sin theta
Why are you using sin(theta)?
 
Should it be sin (90 - theta)?

Edit: I mean sin (90 + theta) which would be equal to cos theta correct?
 
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Lamoid said:
Should it be sin (90 - theta)?

Edit: I mean sin (90 + theta) which would be equal to cos theta correct?
I'd say the first, which does equal cos(theta). :wink:
 

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