Error in Thomas' Calculus 13th edition?

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The discussion revolves around a potential error in Example 3 of Section 11-2 from Thomas' Calculus 13th edition, specifically concerning the presence of a minus sign in the derivative expressions related to trigonometric functions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants express confusion regarding the absence of a minus sign in the derivative dy = 3cos^2t sint dt. Some suggest that the correct form should include this sign, while others question the notation used in the book.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the derivative expressions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider the limits of integration and the implications of the negative sign, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct formulation yet.

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There is mention of missing steps in the textbook example, and participants note that the complete problem context may be necessary for clarity. The notation "x-=" is also questioned, indicating potential confusion about the author's presentation.

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Homework Statement


Section 11-2, Page 651, Example 3

Homework Equations


y = sin^3t and dy = 3cos^2t sint dt. Shouldn't there be a Minus Sign there?

The Attempt at a Solution


Answer is correct. But isn't there a missing Minus Sign?
 
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Daniel McKinley said:

Homework Statement


Section 11-2, Page 651, Example 3

Homework Equations


y = sin^3t and dy = 3cos^2t sint dt. Shouldn't there be a Minus Sign there?

The Attempt at a Solution


Answer is correct. But isn't there a missing Minus Sign?
What makes you think that? Shouldn't it be ##3sin^2tcostdt##?
 
Daniel McKinley said:
dy = 3cos^2t sint dt. Shouldn't there be a Minus Sign there?

Shouldn't that be "##3 \sin^2{t} \cos{t}\ dt##" ?
 
The book has x-=cos^3 t and dx = 3 cos^2 t sin t dt That's where the minus sign appears to be missing.
 
Daniel McKinley said:
The book has x-=cos^3 t and dx = 3 cos^2 t sin t dt That's where the minus sign appears to be missing.

I don't understand the notation "x-=". You didn't say where the minus sign is missing.
 
He doesn't fill in the missing steps? No they don't always, you are expected to do it yourself.

Best not to try and do this one in your head alone. Write it out and if you still have a problem ask again giving your work.

You're sure you copied the formulae exactly to us? As it stands, it looks like he has used some trigonometrical identitiy/ies which makes it not immediately obvious to most people.
 
Daniel McKinley said:

Homework Statement


Section 11-2, Page 651, Example 3

Homework Equations


y = sin^3t and dy = 3cos^2t sint dt. Shouldn't there be a Minus Sign there?

The Attempt at a Solution


Answer is correct. But isn't there a missing Minus Sign?
Daniel McKinley said:
The book has x-=cos^3 t and dx = 3 cos^2 t sin t dt That's where the minus sign appears to be missing.
Hello Daniel McKinley. Welcome to PF !

It helps greatly to give us the entire problem (in this case an Example) as it was given in the textbook.

Here is a screen shot of what I could find for that example:
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The author has done the problem correctly. As @epenguin has suggested, the author has skipped some steps.

Indeed, ##\ dx = -3\cos^2 t \sin t \,dt\ ## with a negative sign.

If you consider the limits of integration, the negative sign has the effect of switching the limits of integration, giving the integral you see above.
 
Thank you SammyS!
 

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