Evaluate Integration: Solve ln(t)*t^15/15 - t^14*log(t)

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In summary: When you integrate, you add 1 to the exponent and divide by the new exponent. So for example, integrating t^14 gives you t^15/15. Hope that helps!
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Evaluate [tex]\int t^{14} ln(t) dt[/tex]


using integration by parts and formula [tex]uv-\intv du[/tex]

u=ln(t)
du=1/t
dv=t^14
v=t^15/15

lnt*t^15/15-[tex]\int[/tex]t^15/15*1/t

lnt*t^15/15-t^14*log(t)

i don't know what I am doing wrong, please help
 
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First step is fine. You're over-thinking the second step:

[tex] \int{\frac{t^{15}}{15} \frac{dt}{t}} = \int{\frac{t^{14}}{15}dt = \frac{t^{15}}{225} [/tex]

So the answer should read:

[tex] \int{\left(\ln t\right) t^{14} dt} = \frac{t^{15}}{15} \left(\ln t - \frac{1}{15} \right) [/tex]
 
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CellCoree said:
Evaluate [tex]\int t^{14} ln(t) dt[/tex]


using integration by parts and formula [tex]uv-\intv du[/tex]

u=ln(t)
du=1/t
dv=t^14
v=t^15/15

lnt*t^15/15-[tex]\int[/tex]t^15/15*1/t

lnt*t^15/15-t^14*log(t)

i don't know what I am doing wrong, please help

DO NOT USE THIS HORRIBLE MIXTURE OF INTEGRATION BY PARTS AND INTEGRATION BY SUBSTITUTION!
Write:
[tex]\int{uv'}dt=uv-\int{u'v}dt[/tex]
[tex]u=ln(t)\to{u}'=\frac{1}{t}[/tex]
[tex]v'=t^{14}\to{v}=\frac{1}{15}t^{15}[/tex]
 
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arildno said:
DO NOT USE THIS HORRIBLE MIXTURE OF INTEGRATION BY PARTS AND INTEGRATION BY SUBSTITUTION!
Write:
[tex]\int{uv'}dt=uv-\int{u'v}dt[/tex]
[tex]u=ln(t)\to{u}'=\frac{1}{t}[/tex]
[tex]v'=t^{14}\to{v}=\frac{1}{15}t^{15}[/tex]


what do you mean? your setup is just like mines
 
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CellCoree said:
what do you mean? your setup is just like mines
Nope!
1. "Using formula uv-du"
Complete nonsense
If you want to use this method properly, write:
udv=d(uv)-vdu
2.Furthermore
you use a meaningless constuction like du=1/t
If you want to use this method, you must write du=1/t*dt
3. Your integral lacks dt, and is therefore meaningless as well
 
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jamesrc said:
First step is fine. You're over-thinking the second step:

[tex] \int{\frac{t^{15}}{15} \frac{dt}{t}} = \int{\frac{t^{14}}{15}dt = \frac{t^{15}}{225} [/tex]

So the answer should read:

[tex] \int{\left(\ln t\right) t^{14} dt} = \frac{t^{15}}{15} \left(\ln t - \frac{1}{15} \right) [/tex]


ok i know how you got [tex] \int{\frac{t^{15}}{15} \frac{dt}{t}} = \int{\frac{t^{14}}{15}dt [/tex]

but how did you get

[tex]\int{\frac{t^{14}}{15}dt = \frac{t^{15}}{225} [/tex]

i know you got the anti-derv. of it, and i tried to look in my book for a form like that, but i can't find it. can you explain to me how you did that?

for [tex]\int{\frac{t^{14}}{15}dt[/tex] i used u-du sub.

u=14
du=u+1

so... t^u/du but i can't seem to find that form in the book
 
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[tex] \int \frac{t^{14}}{15} dt = \frac{1}{15}\int t^{14} dt = \frac{1}{15}\frac{t^{15}}{15} =

\frac{t^{15}}{(15)^{2}} = \frac{t^{15}}{225} [/tex]
 

1. What is the process for evaluating integration for ln(t)*t^15/15 - t^14*log(t)?

The process for evaluating this integration involves using the power rule and the logarithmic rule for integration. First, use the power rule to integrate t^15/15 and t^14*log(t). Then, use the logarithmic rule to integrate ln(t) to get the final solution.

2. Can this integration be solved using substitution?

Yes, this integration can be solved using substitution. You can substitute u = ln(t) to simplify the expression and make it easier to integrate.

3. Is there a specific range of values for t in which this integration is valid?

Yes, this integration is valid for all positive values of t. Since the natural logarithm function is undefined for negative values, the integration only applies to positive values of t.

4. How do you handle the logarithmic term when evaluating this integration?

The logarithmic term, ln(t), can be integrated using the logarithmic rule for integration, which states that the integral of ln(t) is equal to t*ln(t) - t + C, where C is a constant of integration.

5. Are there any special techniques or tricks for solving this integration?

One trick for solving this integration is to use integration by parts. This can help simplify the expression and make it easier to integrate. Additionally, using techniques such as substitution or factoring can also be helpful in solving this integration.

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