Evaluate the Integral sqrt(1+7s)ds

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The discussion revolves around evaluating integrals, specifically focusing on the integral of the function \(\sqrt{1+7s}\) and a related integral involving \(\frac{6r^2}{\sqrt{6-r^3}}\). Participants are exploring methods of integration and addressing issues related to applying the chain rule and substitution techniques.

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  • The original poster attempts to evaluate the integral \(\sqrt{1+7s}\) but expresses confusion about the correct application of integration techniques. Some participants suggest checking the derivative of the proposed solution to identify errors, while others recommend using substitution for integrals of the form \(\int \sqrt{ax+b}\,dx\). In a separate thread, another participant struggles with a different integral and questions the correctness of their substitution approach.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and guidance on integration techniques. There is recognition of the need to clarify steps taken in the problem-solving process, and some participants are exploring different interpretations of the integrals involved. No explicit consensus has been reached, but productive suggestions have been made.

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1.The question is Evaluate the Integral \sqrt{1+7s}ds
2. Ok, so I've tried this problem but I'm not coming up with the correct solution. Could you help me.
3. This is how I'm handling the problem.

Evaluate: (1+7s) ^1/2
= \frac{2(1+7s)^(3/2)}{3} +C
The answer is supposed to be 2/21 (1+7s) ^(3/2) + C Could someone please "spell out" how to get this. I don't understand! THank you!
 
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take the derivative of \frac{2}{3}(1+7s)^{3/2} and then you'll probably see what's going wrong. You're forgetting the chain rule.

EDIT: let f(s)=s^{3/2} and g(s)=1+7s. Then \frac{2}{3}(1+7s)^{3/2}=\frac{2}{3}f(g(s)) and by the chain rule \frac{d}{ds}(\frac{2}{3}(1+7s)^{3/2})=\frac{2}{3}f'(g(s))*g'(s). Can you tell me what f'(g(s)) and g'(s) are?
 
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What you did is apply,

\int \sqrt{x} dx = \frac{2x^{\frac{3}{2}}}{3} + C

What happens when your given integral is

\int \sqrt{ax+b}\ dx

Hint: Use substitution.
 
AHHHH! I got it! THank you guys so much! I truly appreciate it!
 
What happens when you are taking the integral of something like this...



∫\frac{6r^2}{\sqrt{6-r^3}}

I tried:
u = 6-r^3
du = 3r^2

but i cannot get the correct answer. Help would be great!
 
With u= 6- r^3, du= -3r^2 dr. You seem to have left out the negative sign.
 
Your integral in post #5 is in this general form:
\int \frac{f'(x)}{\sqrt{f(x)}}\,dx=2\sqrt{f(x)}+C
In that case, you just rearrange the real constant coefficient of the numerator to match that of f'(x).
 
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Great.. So if I use that equation then I am getting-2 (6-r^3)^(1/2) + C

But the book says it should be -4(6-r^3)^(1/2) +C
What am i missing?
(thankyou so much for the help!)
 
You wrote your integral wrong. It should be:
\int \frac{6r^2}{\sqrt{6-r^3}}\,dr
 
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You should write out the steps that you've tried.

You let u=6-r^{3} and du=-3r^{2}dr.

Then 3r^2dr=-du

However, notice that the numerator is actually 6r^{2}, not 3r^{2}

Also, can you tell me what is \int\frac{1}{\sqrt{x}}dx?
 
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