Expectation value <p> of the ground state of hydrogen

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The discussion revolves around calculating the expectation value of momentum for an electron in the ground state of a hydrogen atom, focusing on the application of the momentum operator and integration techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss applying the momentum operator to the wavefunction and integrating over different coordinate systems. There are attempts to express the wavefunction in terms of Cartesian coordinates and to perform a three-dimensional integral. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the results, particularly concerning the imaginary nature of the obtained momentum value.

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Some participants have provided guidance on expressing the wavefunction correctly and have pointed out potential misunderstandings regarding the momentum operator in spherical coordinates. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the integration process and the assumptions made about the momentum operator.

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There is a mention of the need to express the wavefunction explicitly in Cartesian coordinates and to consider the properties of the momentum operator as Hermitian. Participants are also navigating the complexities of integrating in three dimensions.

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How should I calculate the expectation value of momentum of an electron in the ground state in hydrogen atom.

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I am trying to apply the p operator i.e. ##-ihd/dx## over ##\psi##. and integrating it from 0 to infinity. The answer I am getting is ##ih/{2(pi)a^3}##
 

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You are actually trying to calculate the expectation value of px. To do that, you must express the ground state wavefunction explicitly as a function of ##x## so that you can take the derivative. You have to do a 3d integral.
 
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So I did the following to integrate it in 3d:$$ \iiint_V \Psi^* (-i\hbar) \frac {d\Psi} {dr} r^2 sin\theta dr d\theta d\phi$$

The final answer i am getting is ##\frac {i\hbar}{a_b}## which does not look right because it is imaginary and momentum operator is hermitean. I can't figure out what mistake I am doing
 
You are assuming that in spherical coordinates ##p_r=-i \hbar \frac{\partial}{\partial r}.## It is not quite that. Do some research on the internet to find out what it is and why.
 
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