Extreme high speed wireless range

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of transmitting HD video and data over long distances (15-20 miles) using mobile connection points. Participants explore various wireless technologies and methods for achieving high-speed transmission in dynamic environments.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a solution for transmitting HD video over long distances with mobile endpoints, considering the use of amplifiers and antennas.
  • Another participant questions the feasibility of transferring HD video over such distances, citing limitations of existing technologies like WiMAX.
  • A different viewpoint mentions a successful demonstration of long-distance transmission using standard wireless connections with parabolic dishes, emphasizing the need for precise alignment and line of sight.
  • Concerns are raised about regulatory compliance and the technical challenges of using radio energy for such applications, suggesting alternatives like laser communication and ultra-wideband (UWB) technology.
  • UWB is highlighted as a promising technology due to its potential for significant channel capacity gains and resistance to fading.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the feasibility of long-distance HD video transmission, with some doubting its practicality while others cite examples of successful attempts. There is no consensus on the best technology or approach to use.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of line of sight and precise alignment for successful transmission, as well as the potential need for multiple simplex links to manage transmission and reception effectively. Regulatory considerations are also mentioned as a limitation.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring advanced wireless communication technologies, engineers working on long-distance transmission solutions, and those curious about the practical challenges of mobile data transmission.

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high speed wireless with extreme range

I'm trying to find a way to transmit hd video and data over long distances. Thats not the hard part. Hard part is that all connection points are mobile at varying speeds and MUCH longer range than any network I've ever seen. I have enough power to use any amplifyer or antenna but I'm not sure what type to use?

I have thought of making near point to point with some sort of tracking system (possible gps)?

I'm also having trouble deciding what type of wireless tech would be best to use (802.x.x)?
 
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about 15-20 miles.
 
I seriously doubt that it is possible to transfer HD video over that kind of distance; as far as I know not even WiMAX can do better than a couple of Mbit over 10km; and at 15-20 miles you would be lucky to get a signal at all.
 
Uh, yeah, this is the sort of thing that entire companies of very skilled engineers spend years doing. It's not something you're going to cook up in your garage, particularly if you need to deal with constantly-changing multi-path distortion.

No offense, but if you're seriously considering using 802.x you need to go back and hit the books; you don't know much about digital communications.

- Warren
 
ok thank you.
 
I saw a demonstration of someone doing this a couple of years ago.

He was just using standard computer wireless connections at each end but feeding the signal into small (18 inch) parabolic dishes. Transmit power was about 30 mW on 2.4 GHz at each end.

The distance was about 20 km and he connected to Internet on his computer at work while using a laptop in a park 20 km away.

However, the dishes had to be precisely aligned and there was a perfect line of sight path.

So, it is sort of possible, but not if either location is changing or if there is not a good path between the dishes.
 
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If you've decided to obey your country's radio regulations, then technically you probably can't do what you want to do using radio energy. If you don't mind stretching the rules a little, then it ~might~ be doable with enough power. However you'll probably need two separate simplex links so you don't have to switch the power amp in and out according to whether the wireless device is transmitting or receiving. If you have high-tech engineers at your disposal, then other options are laser com (hardly possible for mobile com) and UWB. UWB is an awesome technology. It yields practical channel capacity gains of 1000-fold given the same transmit power. This is mainly because of its immunity to fading, the Shannon-Hartley theorem, and much easier duty-cycle reduction than narrow-band systems.
 

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