Ferroelectric materials versus Piezoelectric materials

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The discussion centers on the differences and similarities between ferroelectric and piezoelectric materials, particularly focusing on the nature of polarization in these materials and the reasons for applying an electric field to ferroelectric ceramics that already exhibit spontaneous polarization. The scope includes theoretical and conceptual aspects of material properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the spontaneous polarization in ferroelectric materials may not result in a net polarization before the application of an electric field, leading to questions about the necessity of further polarization.
  • One participant proposes that the polarization in ferroelectric materials can be random before an electric field is applied, similar to the behavior of permanent magnets during cooling in a magnetic field.
  • Another participant questions the distinction between ferroelectric materials and classical piezoelectric materials, such as quartz, if ferroelectric materials can have near-zero polarization prior to electric field application.
  • It is noted that piezoelectric materials develop strain upon the application of an electric field, while some ferroelectric materials exhibit spontaneous polarization and a strong response to applied fields, indicated by a larger susceptibility.
  • A reference to a book chapter on piezoelectric materials is provided, which discusses the poling of ferroelectric materials.
  • One participant mentions that neutral ceramics can be polarized by physical stress and that an electric field is applied during manufacture to achieve permanent polarization, introducing the term "electret" as relevant to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of polarization in ferroelectric materials and the necessity of applying an electric field, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of polarization in ferroelectric materials and the definitions of terms like "electret," which may not be universally agreed upon. The relationship between spontaneous polarization and external fields remains unresolved.

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Hello every one.

Ferroelectric materials have spantaneous polarization but i read in many articles that these ceramics are polarized by applying an electric field. Why polarize ceramics that are already polarized ?

Thanks.
 
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I can only guess a little at this one, but before application of the electric field, it is possible the polarization is somewhat random with near zero net polarization. For ferroelectric materials of the permanent magnet type, I believe they apply a somewhat weak to moderately strong external magnetic field as the magnet cools from the molten state and above the Curie temperature to below the Curie temperature, so that the permanent magnetization is ordered and in one direction, as opposed to being somewhat random throughout the material, as might occur with cooling without application of an external magnetic field.
 
It makes sense. Thanks for the explanation but If the polarization of ferroelectric materials is near to zero before applying an electric field, what is the difference between a classical piezoelectric material (such as quartz) and a ferroelectric material ?
 
A piezoelectric material develops a strain (a length change) upon application of the electric field. ## \\ ## I believe some ferroelectric materials have a spontaneous polarization in the absence of an applied field. In addition, I believe in many cases they also respond very strongly to the applied field with a very large ## \chi ##, where ## P=\chi E ##. Materials that would be considered ordinary dielectrics have a smaller value of ## \chi ##.
 
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Thanks guys ;)
 
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nabs16 said:
Ferroelectric materials have spantaneous polarization but i read in many articles that these ceramics are polarized by applying an electric field. Why polarize ceramics that are already polarized ?
Neutral ceramics can be polarised by physical stress. If a permanent polarisation is required then an electric field is applied during manufacture. The key term that is missing is " electret ".
 
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