Find angle for the ring to be in equilibrium

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To find the angle Theta for equilibrium in the system, the total forces and torques acting on the ring must be balanced. The masses involved include two blocks of 2 kg each and a ring with a mass of 4π kg. The discussion highlights the complexity of calculating the center of mass, suggesting that considering the entire ring rather than a portion simplifies the problem. It is recommended to add a missing quarter ring to achieve balance with the two suspended masses. Understanding the coordinates of the mass center of the quarter ring relative to the circle's center is crucial for solving the equilibrium condition.
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Homework Statement


Find the angle Theta so that the system is in equilibrium
Mass of each block: 2 Kg
Mass of ring: 4π Kg
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Homework Equations


Static equilibrium:
Rotational equilibrium

The Attempt at a Solution


Static equilibrium:
2g + 2g + 4πg = Normal
N = 4g + 4πg
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Taking the torque with respect to the center of mass:

(N*(cosθ + sinθ)*2R*√2)/√2 * 3π + g*R(cosθ-sinθ) = [ 2*g*(cosθ+sinθ)*( (R/√2) + (2R√2)/3π) ] / √2 + 2*g*cosθ *(R + 2R/3π) + 2g*sinθ*(2R/3π)

This doesn't lead me anywhere.
Thanks for your help
 
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Dag Anton, :welcome:

Center of mass is way too complicated: depends on ##\theta##. Take the support point or the center of the circle
 
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Not sure whether you figured this out, but I believe the given mass 4π is for the complete ring, so the 3/4 ring shown has mass 3π.
It will be easier to think about if you add in the missing quarter ring, plus another placed symmetrically on the other side to compensate. Then you only have to deal with that quarter ring balancing the two suspended masses.
What are the x and y coordinates of the mass centre of the quarter ring, relative to the circle's centre?
 
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