Find equation of asymptotes: very basic

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The discussion revolves around finding the equations of asymptotes for the rational function given by the expression y = (5x^3 - 4x^2 + 11) / (2x(x^2 - 9)). The subject area pertains to rational functions and asymptotic behavior.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the degrees of the numerator and denominator to determine vertical and horizontal asymptotes. There is confusion regarding the degree of the denominator, with some suggesting it is 3 due to the expansion of the expression, while others question the interpretation of the degrees and coefficients.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing clarifications and corrections regarding the notation of the function. Some guidance has been offered on how to properly format the expression to avoid misinterpretation. Multiple interpretations of the asymptotic behavior are being explored, particularly concerning the horizontal asymptote.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of proper notation when writing fractions with multiple terms, indicating a potential source of confusion in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement



Find the equations of the asymptotes.

Homework Equations



y = 5x^3 - 4x^2 + 11 / 2x (x^2 - 9)

( 5x^3 - 4x^2 + 11 is the numerator, 2x (x^2 - 9) is the denominator)

The Attempt at a Solution



Vertical: x = 0, x = -3, x = 3
Horizontal: Quick question...

The degree of the numerator for the first coefficient of the numerator is 3, for first of the denominator it is 1, correct? Thus there is no horizontal asymptote?

OR

Is the degree of the denominator 3, because of 2x and then x^2, in which case it would be 5/2?
 
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The second. The degree of the denominator is 3. 2x(x^2-9)=2x^3-18x.
 
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You're getting slightly confused, but did arrive at the answer kinda. Basically for x large, the x^3 terms on both the denominator and numerator will dominate each expression. Since they are both of degree 3 (that is the highest power of x is 3 for each) we simply look at the coeffecients of both x^3 terms and this will give us the answer. The coeffecient on top is 5, and on the bottom is 2, hence we have an asymptote at y=5/2.
 
939 said:

Homework Equations



y = 5x^3 - 4x^2 + 11 / 2x (x^2 - 9)

( 5x^3 - 4x^2 + 11 is the numerator, 2x (x^2 - 9) is the denominator)
I'm glad you clarified what you wrote. When you write fractions with multiple terms in either the numerator or denominator, put parentheses around the whole numerator or denominator.

Here is your equation as it should be written:
y = ([/color]5x^3 - 4x^2 + 11)[/color] / ([/color]2x (x^2 - 9))[/color]
 
Dick said:
The second. The degree of the denominator is 3. 2x(x^2-9)=2x^3-18x.

Gengar said:
You're getting slightly confused, but did arrive at the answer kinda. Basically for x large, the x^3 terms on both the denominator and numerator will dominate each expression. Since they are both of degree 3 (that is the highest power of x is 3 for each) we simply look at the coeffecients of both x^3 terms and this will give us the answer. The coeffecient on top is 5, and on the bottom is 2, hence we have an asymptote at y=5/2.
Thanks :).

Mark44 said:
I'm glad you clarified what you wrote. When you write fractions with multiple terms in either the numerator or denominator, put parentheses around the whole numerator or denominator.

Here is your equation as it should be written:
y = ([/color]5x^3 - 4x^2 + 11)[/color] / ([/color]2x (x^2 - 9))[/color]

Thanks, I learned something similar when using wolframalpha, but wasn't sure if I should always write them like that :).
 
When you write a fraction with inline text (as opposed to using LaTeX), you should always put parentheses around numerators and/or denominators that have multiple terms.
What you wrote -
5x^3 - 4x^2 + 11 / 2x (x^2 - 9)

would be interpreted by many as

5x3 - 4x2 + ##\frac{11}{2}## x(x2 - 9)

Pretty obviously, that's not what you intended.
 

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