Find the angular speed of the system right after the collision

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angular speed of a system after a collision involving a projectile and a rod. The initial approach incorrectly applied the moment of inertia for the combined mass of the projectile and rod. The correct method requires considering the separate momenta for the rod and the projectile, with the projectile acting as a point mass at a distance of d/2 from the pivot. After clarifying the calculations, the correct angular speed is determined. The conversation highlights the importance of accurately applying principles of angular momentum and inertia in collision problems.
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The problem:
A projectile of mass m=1.8 kg moves to the right with speed v=24.8 m/s. THe projectile strikes and sticks to the end of a stationary rod of mass M=6.75 kg and length d=1.71 m that is pivoted about a frictionless axle through its center. Find the angular speed of the system right after the collision.
I know the I of a thin rod pivoting about its center is 1/12 Md^2 and that angular momentum is mrv. So with that, I tried this:
I_{i}\omega_{i}=I_{f}\omega_{f}
rmv=\frac{1}{12}\left(m+M\right)d^{2}\omega_{f}
\omega_{f}=\frac{12rmv}{\left(m+M\right)d^{2}}
\omega_{f}=\frac{12\left(\frac{1.71m}{2}\right)\left(1.8kg\right)\left(24.8\frac{m}{s}\right)}{\left(1.8kg+6.75kg\right)1.71m^{2}}
\omega_{f}=18.319\frac{rad}{s}
Wrong answer. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance!
 
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error is in the 2nd line, where you have taken the inertia as being for a mass of (m+M) rotating about the rod axle.

You should have the sum of two separate momenta here, one for M rotating about the rod axle and the other for a point mass, m, rotating about the rod axle, at a distance d/2, with the the same angular velocity.
 
Awesome, got it. Thanks a million for your help! :smile:
 
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