Find the maximum amplitude of the induced EMF

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the maximum amplitude of the induced electromotive force (emf) in a coil due to a magnetic field generated by a radio transmitter. The context is electromagnetic induction, specifically applying Faraday's law in a scenario involving a coil and a varying magnetic field.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the appropriate equations for calculating induced emf and question the relevance of the angle in the context of the problem. There is uncertainty about which equation to use for magnetic flux and how to incorporate the angle into the calculations. Some participants express confusion over the definitions and relationships between different equations for magnetic flux.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to the problem, with participants providing guidance on which equations might be relevant. Some participants are questioning assumptions about the need for specific variables, such as time, while others are clarifying the definitions of terms and the context of the equations presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of certain information, such as the specific time variable, which complicates the solution process. There is also a discussion about the various forms of equations for magnetic flux and their applicability in different scenarios.

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Homework Statement


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A radio transmitter radiates isotropically at the frequency of 90.8 MHz. The peak magnetic field at
a receiver, 9km from the transmitter, is ##9x10^{-10}T##. Calculate the maximum amplitude of the induced emf in a 12 turn coil with area A = ##90cm^{2}## at the receiver. Hint: choose the optimal angle.

Homework Equations



The amplitude of induced emf: ##ε=BAω##
##ε=-N\frac{dΦ}{dt}=-NABωcos(ωt)##
##Φ=NBA##
##Φ=NABsin(ωt)##
##Φ=BAcosθ##
All the equations for Φ are in the lecture slides but how can I know which one is the correct one? Why are there several equations for Φ?

The Attempt at a Solution



First, I thought I have to find the first derivative etc. to find the absolute maximum since the question is asking about the maximum amplitude. But in one of the lectures we had a similar example (the question was to find the amplitude of the electromotive force induced in the loop by the signal. And the numbers were different, of course). In the example, they used this equation: ##ε=BAω##
If I use the same equation for my problem, I get this:
##ω=(2)(π)(f)##
##ω=(2)(π)(9.08x10^7Hz)=5.7x10^8rad/s##
Plug in:
##ε=BAω##
##ε=(9x10^{-10}T)(0.009m^2)(5.7x10^8rad/s)##
##ε=4.6x10^{-3}V##

However, since the problem includes the hint about the angle, and my solution doesn't include an angle, I'm guessing that my solution is wrong. So how should I approach the problem instead? Any help is much appreciated!
Many thanks! :)
 
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chocolatecake said:
Plug in:
##
ε=BAω##
This is what you should use
##ε=-N\frac{dΦ}{dt}=-NABωcos(ωt)##
What happened to ##N##? What happened to ##\cos(\omega t)##?
 
Ok, but why do I have to use this equation?
 
Another problem is, is that t is not given, so I can't really solve the equation.
 
chocolatecake said:
Ok, but why do I have to use this equation?
It's called Faraday's law (one of the Maxwell equations thta govern electromagnetism).

chocolatecake said:
Another problem is, is that t is not given, so I can't really solve the equation.
You don't have to. Check the definition of amplitude.
 
chocolatecake said:
my solution doesn't include an angle
In the last of your equations there is a factor ##\cos\theta## that you can optimize.

Do you understand your own relevant formulas ? If not, you have to go back to where they come from and find out what the variables are and what the equation describes.
 
BvU said:
You don't have to. Check the definition of amplitude.
Is the amplitude is the maximum displacement in the y direction? So I have to find the derivative?

BvU said:
It's called Faraday's law (one of the Maxwell equations thta govern electromagnetism).
That I do understand, but I found many different equations for Φ and I don't know which one is the correct one. For example, here it says that ##Φ=NBAcosθ## , on this website ##Φ=NBA## and according to our professor ##Φ=NABsin(ωt)##. I don't think that my professor is wrong but I don't understand why there are so many different equations for the same thing. Since there are so many, can they be used interchangeably?
 
BvU said:
If not, you have to go back to where they come from and find out what the variables are and what the equation describes.
Well N is the number of turns, Φ is the magnetic flux, B is the magnetic field and A the area.
 
And ω is the angular frequency in rad/s
 
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chocolatecake said:
The amplitude of induced emf:
  1. ##\varepsilon =BA\omega ##
  2. ##\varepsilon =−N\displaystyle {d\Phi\over dt} =−NAB\omega \cos(\omega t) ##
  3. ##\Phi =NBA ##
  4. ##\Phi =NAB\sin (\omega t) ##
  5. ##\Phi =BA\cos\theta##
All the equations for Φ are in the lecture slides but how can I know which one is the correct one?
Why are there several equations for Φ?

They are all one and the same relationship:
  1. Is for the amplitude of ##\varepsilon## in a rotating one turn loop OR a loop in a time-dependent B(t) = |B| ##\cos(\omega t##)
  2. Is for ##\varepsilon(t)## of a rotating N turn coil OR a fixed coil with a time-dependent B = |B| ##\cos(\omega t)##
  3. Is a flux -- can be time dependent if B is time dependent or the coil rotates
  4. Is 3 if the coil rotates OR the B as in 2
  5. has a ##\theta## for the orientation of the coil.
Once you understand the material you won't have a problem picking the right expression.
 

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