Find the velocity of the slower object after the collision

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The discussion focuses on calculating the velocity of a slower object after an elastic collision between a 12 g object moving at 31 cm/s and a 29 g object moving at 15 cm/s. The conservation of momentum and kinetic energy equations are applied to derive the final velocities. The initial attempts at solving the equations involve substituting values and simplifying, but confusion arises in the quadratic equation step. A suggestion is made to expand the quadratic term correctly before applying the quadratic formula. The conversation highlights the complexity of the calculations involved in elastic collisions.
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Homework Statement


A(n) 12 g object moving to the right at
31 cm/s overtakes and collides elastically with
a 29 g object moving in the same direction at
15 cm/s.

Find the velocity of the slower object after
the collision.

Answer in units of cm/s.


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The Attempt at a Solution



I know it probably looks very confusing. I am not the best at keeping track of the work I am doing. Some steps may have changed or are irrelevant to the answer:

m1*v1+m2*v2=m1*v1f+m2*v2f

v2f=[(m1*v1+m2*v2)-m1*v1f]/m2


.5(m1)(v1)^2 + .5(m2)(v2)^2 = .5(m1)v1f^2 + .5(m2)v2f^2

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v2f=(807-12v1f)/29


18057= 12v1f^2 + 29v2f^2

18057= 12v1f^2 + 29[(807-12v1f)/29]^2

[(807-12v1f)/29][(807-12v1f)/29]

(807-12v1f)(807-12v1f)

651249 - 2(9684v1f) + 144v1f^2

c....b....a

-19368 (+-) [19368^2 - 4(144)(651249)]^.5
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2(144)


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v1f = 67.25

v2f=(807-12v1f)/29

v2f=(807-12[67.25])/29

18057= 54270.75 + 29v2f^2

-36213.75 = 29v2f^2
 
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Ok so your last correct step was this.

18057= 12v1f^2 + 29[(807-12v1f)/29]^2

And then jumped into the quadratic equation.

Yeah, you can't do that in this case. You should expand the 29[(807-12v1f)/29]^2 term which yields

(1/29)[(144 x^2)-(19368 x)+651249]

Substitute this back to your previous equation.

18057= 12v1f^2 + (1/29)[(144 x^2)-(19368 x)+651249]

THEN you can move everything over to right, simplify, and use the quadratic equation.

Best of luck, quite annoying numbers there.
 
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