Finding Constant A for Independent Electric Field between Two Spheres

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To find the constant A for an independent electric field between two spheres, Gauss' law is applied to calculate the electric flux. The initial approach involved integrating the charge density A/r, but it was pointed out that the volume integral needs reevaluation since the charge distribution isn't uniformly distributed. Instead of taking the derivative of the electric field, the correct method is to evaluate the electric field at the inner radius a and the outer radius b, then set these equal to solve for A. This adjustment clarified the solution process, leading to the correct determination of A. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly applying Gauss' law and integrating properly in spherical coordinates.
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Homework Statement


We have a sphere with radius b, within that sphere there's another sphere with radius a. Between the two spheres we have an electric charge with density A/r. Also, we have a charge Q in the center. We need to find the constant A so that the field between a and b is independent of r (meaning, it's constant for a<=r<=b).


Homework Equations


Gauss' law.



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I added the scanned pages I've written, it should be understandable. As I said, I used Gauss' law to calculate the field, using a sphere with radius r (a<=r<=b) to calculate the electric flux. After finding the electric field as a function of r, I calculated d(E(r))/dr and demanded that it would be=0, but I can't seem to get a solution for A that's independent of r.
 

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In your work, you had

Qin = \frac{A}{r} \left[ \frac{4}{3}\pi r^3 - \frac{4}{3}\pi a^3 \right] + Q

That's not right. You're going to need to re-evaluate the volume integral. The (4/3)\pi r^3 terms only makes sense if the charge distribution is uniformly distributed about the sphere. You can't just multiply them by A/r. It doesn't work that way. You'll have to re-do the volume integral, integrating A/r' from r' = a to r in spherical coordinates (be careful to use the correct volume differential when performing the integral -- it's not simply dr') .

Once you have an expression for the electric field, E, don't worry about taking the derivative. Instead, find the electric field at r = a, and call that Ea. Then find Eb, the electric field at r = b. Set Ea and Eb equal to each other and solve for A.
 
collinsmark said:
In your work, you had

Qin = \frac{A}{r} \left[ \frac{4}{3}\pi r^3 - \frac{4}{3}\pi a^3 \right] + Q

That's not right. You're going to need to re-evaluate the volume integral. The (4/3)\pi r^3 terms only makes sense if the charge distribution is uniformly distributed about the sphere. You can't just multiply them by A/r. It doesn't work that way. You'll have to re-do the volume integral, integrating A/r' from r' = a to r in spherical coordinates (be careful to use the correct volume differential when performing the integral -- it's not simply dr') .

Once you have an expression for the electric field, E, don't worry about taking the derivative. Instead, find the electric field at r = a, and call that Ea. Then find Eb, the electric field at r = b. Set Ea and Eb equal to each other and solve for A.

How did I not notice that..thanks, that solved it.
 
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