Finding derivative of y + 1/(y+3)

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function A = y + 1/(y+3). The original poster is preparing for an exam and is seeking assistance with differentiation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to simplify the equation before differentiating and expresses confusion about the process. Some participants question the effectiveness of their simplification approach and suggest focusing on differentiating sums rather than products.

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Participants are exploring different methods of differentiation, with some providing guidance on the linearity of differentiation. There is a recognition of the original poster's struggles, and a few participants offer insights into the differentiation process without reaching a consensus on the final answer.

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The original poster is revising for an exam and is under time pressure, which may influence their approach to the problem. There is also a mention of confusion regarding the starting point for differentiation.

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Hi, I am stuck on this question. Can someone please help me as quick as possible, I am revising for an exam on Monday.

If A= y + 1/(y+3) , find dA/dy.

I have been tryin to solve this question but I keep getting the wrong answer.:confused: :confused:
 
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What have you tried so far?
 
I assume you know that differentiation is lineair? So (f+g)' = f' + g'.
You should at least be able to do a part then :smile:
 
Well I tried to make the equation simpler first. y + 1/(y+3) = (y^2 + 3y + 1)(y+3)^-1 right so far?
 
TD said:
I assume you know that differentiation is lineair? So (f+g)' = f' + g'.
You should at least be able to do a part then :smile:

Sorry, confused. I just don't know how to start the question in the first place.
 
brandon26 said:
Well I tried to make the equation simpler first. y + 1/(y+3) = (y^2 + 3y + 1)(y+3)^-1 right so far?
That's right but it doesn't make it simpler!
You're probably used to factoring a lot in order to solve equations etc, but when you're going to differentiate (or integrate, later) you'll see that it's easier to differentiate sums than products!

Now, if you need to find the derivative of a sum, you can just take the derivative of each term. In your case (a ' denotes a derivative):

\left( {y + \frac{1}{{y + 3}}} \right)^\prime = \left( y \right)^\prime + \left( {\frac{1}{{y + 3}}} \right)^\prime
 
TD said:
That's right but it doesn't make it simpler!
You're probably used to factoring a lot in order to solve equations etc, but when you're going to differentiate (or integrate, later) you'll see that it's easier to differentiate sums than products!
Now, if you need to find the derivative of a sum, you can just take the derivative of each term. In your case (a ' denotes a derivative):
\left( {y + \frac{1}{{y + 3}}} \right)^\prime = \left( y \right)^\prime + \left( {\frac{1}{{y + 3}}} \right)^\prime

That gives me dA/dy= 1 - 1/(y+3)^2. Is that right?
 
brandon26 said:
That gives me dA/dy= 1 - 1/(y+3)^2. Is that right?
That is correct :smile:
 

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