Finding displacement current in an AC capacitor circuit

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In an AC capacitor circuit, the displacement current is shown to equal the conduction current by differentiating the charge equation Q = CV, leading to the expression Idisplacement = dQ/dt. The discussion emphasizes that while the electric field within the capacitor changes due to the alternating current, it can be considered uniform at any given instant. The relationship between electric flux and charge is established using the formula Φ = Q/ε, which allows for the calculation of displacement current. Participants clarify the distinction between "constant" and "uniform" in the context of electric fields. The conclusion reinforces that the displacement current can be derived without relying solely on the charge differentiation approach.
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Homework Statement


A capacitor is made of two parallel plates of area A, separation d. It is being charged by an AC source. Show that the displacement current inside the capacitor is the same as the conduction current.

Homework Equations


Idisp = ε(dΦE/dt)
Q = CV
C = Aε/d
Xc = 1/(2πƒC)
Q(t) CV(1-e-t/τ)

The Attempt at a Solution


First of all, as it's an AC circuit so we won't be completely charging the capacitor, so I don't think we will use the exponential charging equation for a capacitor.
The displacement current can be obtained by differentiating Q=CV.
That gives (dQ/dt) = C(dV/dt). Assuming V = Vosin(2πft), we get a suitable expression for Id. This leads to a current answer. But of we want to use the electric flux equation then how can we do that?
 
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Peter Andrews said:
But of we want to use the electric flux equation then how can we do that?
What is the equation for electric flux in terms of charge Q?
 
cnh1995 said:
What is the equation for electric flux in terms of charge Q?
Can use the Guass theorem, qenclosed/ε = ∫E.ds (closed integral, I don't know how to insert that sign). But what Guassian surface to choose?
 
Peter Andrews said:
Can use the Guass theorem, qenclosed/ε = ∫E.ds (closed integral, I don't know how to insert that sign). But what Guassian surface to choose?
You can assume the electric field to be uniform. So, electric flux will be simply electric field*area. What is the relevant formula for electric field here?
 
cnh1995 said:
You can assume the electric field to be uniform. So, electric flux will be simply electric field*area. What is the relevant formula for electric field here?
But how can we assume electric field to be constant when the charge is changing? The electric field in a capacitor is σ/ε. σ arial charge density. If we use that, then:
Φ = A.E
= Q/ε
Now differentiating,
(dΦ/dt) = (DQ/dt)/ε
So ε(dΦ/dt) = (DQ/dt)
Hence Idisplacement is dq/dt following which I come back to the process given in my solution above. Is there no other way via which I can get the result, without having to apply dq/dt on capacitor?
 
Peter Andrews said:
Φ = A.E
= Q/ε
Right.
The field is changing but it is uniform at any instant.
 
cnh1995 said:
Right.
The field is changing but it is uniform at any instant.
Exactly. Constant and uniform have different meanings, at least in fields.
 
Peter Andrews said:
Exactly. Constant and uniform have different meanings, at least in fields.
That is why I immidiately changed it to 'uniform'.
 
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