Finding emf1, R1 & R2 from a graph

  • Thread starter Thread starter Omar FTM
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Graph
Join the discussion
Ask a follow-up here, or get your own question answered by working scientists, mathematicians and engineers — people, not an autocomplete.
Real named experts · corrections over time · the nuance an AI answer skips
3 replies · 3K views
Omar FTM
Messages
12
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Both batteries in Figure (a) are ideal. Emf 1 of battery 1 has a fixed value, but emf 2 of battery 2 can be varied between 10.0 V and 100.0 V. The plots in Figure (b) give the currents through the two batteries as a function of 2. The vertical scale is set by is = 0.48 A. You must decide which plot corresponds to which battery, but for both plots, a negative current occurs when the direction of the current through the battery is opposite the direction of that battery's emf. What are (a) emf 1, (b) resistance R1, and (c) resistance R2?

Homework Equations


1/R = I/V = slope

The Attempt at a Solution


The / plot seems the 2nd battery while the \ seems the 1st as when the 2nd battery provide more current , the 1st one will provide less current.
The slope (1/R) of the / = 1 >>> R2( of battery ) =1 , the slope of \ = 3/4 >> R1 (of battery) = 4/3.
Using the first point of each plot , At E2 = 10v , the emf1 plot (\) current = 1.2 A & the emf2 plot (/) current = -0.96 A.
Are my steps right so far ? what should I do next ?
 

Attachments

  • 2016-12-01 15_40_12-WileyPLUS.jpg
    2016-12-01 15_40_12-WileyPLUS.jpg
    9.3 KB · Views: 578
Physics news on Phys.org
Hi Omar,
Omar FTM said:
The / plot seems the 2nd battery while the \ seems the 1st
I agree. What about the voltages where ##i_1 = 0 ##, respectively ##i_2 = 0 ## ?
Omar FTM said:
The slope (1/R) of the / = 1 >>> R2( of battery ) =1
I suppose >>> is ##\Rightarrow## ? Anyway: don't agree. Not about the numbers and not about ##R_2##.
Omar FTM said:
slope of \ = 3/4 >> R1 (of battery) = 4/3
Don't agree. Not about the numbers and not about ##R_1##.

So: first fix the numbers, then the interpretation.
 
Where i=0 , E2(2nd battery) = 40v , E2(1st battery) = 60v. ( what is the equation to turn the E2(1st battery) to E1 of the first battery ) ?
I calculated 1\R using If-Ii\Vf-Vi from the plots , R is V\I ( the inverse ).
 
This ring a bell for ##i_2=0## ?

upload_2016-12-1_18-11-39.png


Now you re-draw the diagram for ##i_1 = 0## ...

All this gives you a few equations with a few unknowns. From then on it's just math :smile: