Finding Outlet Diameter for Compressible Fluid Flow

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The discussion revolves around calculating the outlet diameter for compressible fluid flow, specifically carbon dioxide, given certain inlet conditions. Participants debate the applicability of the Bernoulli equation versus steady flow energy equations for compressible fluids, with conflicting opinions on its use. The importance of geometry in real applications is highlighted, as well as the need for specific conditions to accurately apply the equations. One user expresses uncertainty about how to proceed without knowing the outlet conditions, particularly when analyzing an expansion valve for carbon dioxide. The conversation emphasizes the complexity of fluid dynamics in practical scenarios.
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hii ,
i know the inlet conditions i.e. dia 2mm , pressure = 100 bar, density= 0.001176 m3/kg, mass flow rate remains constant= 0.09017 m/s , for same mass flow rate for pressure drop 80 bar(i.e. pressure at outlet is 20 bar) for COMPRESSIBLE FLUID what will be the outlet dia? take fluid carbon dioxide...
 
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Use the Bernoulli equation, and continuity equation ;)
 


no u can't use bernouli equation for a compressible fluid...use steady flow energy equations
 


ravijha said:
no u can't use bernouli equation for a compressible fluid...use steady flow energy equations

Depends on what level of accuracy you want. The general rule of thumb is that if the pressure drop is less than 10% of the inlet pressure, then reasonable result can be obtained.

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ravijha said:
no u can't use bernouli equation for a compressible fluid...

Yes you can.

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Is this for a real application, or is this a textbook problem? It this is for a real application, geometry matters. Is this a nozzle, piping system, what?
 


Of course you can use the Bernoulli equation..., the Bernoulli equation says:

\frac{v^2}{2}+w+U=constant

Over one streamline if the flow is "general" (well, almost, fluid is barotropic, outer force field is conservative etc), and everywhere if the flow is irrotational.

Here w is the specific enthalpy, and U is the potential of the force field.
This can be applied to "any" fluid, compressible and incompressible alike...
 


hiiiii thanks for ur help and sorry for late response,
Topher925 u may be right...this is real problem...
but i know only inlet conditions ...don't know the outlet conditions...then how to apply this equation? if assumed outlet dia, then i am able to calculate velocity at outlet...but again one parameter misssing that is specific volume...actually this real problem came while analysing the expansion valve for carbon dioxide...
 
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