Finding Output Voltage, Resistance Drop & Current in a Circuit w/ Zener Diode

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around analyzing a circuit involving a Zener diode, specifically focusing on determining the output voltage, voltage drop across a load resistor (RL), and the current through the Zener diode. Participants seek clarity on the application of Zener diode theory in practical circuit analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about how to apply Zener diode theory in circuit analysis, particularly regarding its behavior in reverse bias.
  • One participant asserts that in reverse bias, a Zener diode is not open and requests clarification on the V-I characteristic curve of a Zener diode.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for the original poster to demonstrate some effort in solving the circuit before receiving help, suggesting they refer to external resources like Wikipedia.
  • Some participants highlight that the simplistic model of a diode being a short circuit in forward bias and an open circuit in reverse bias is inadequate, prompting a discussion on more accurate models.
  • Questions are raised about the implications of applying a large reverse bias voltage and whether a reverse-biased diode always behaves like an open circuit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the application of Zener diode theory, with multiple competing views on how to interpret its behavior in circuits. The discussion remains unresolved, with ongoing requests for clarification and understanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations in their understanding of the practical application of Zener diode characteristics, indicating a dependency on theoretical knowledge without clear guidance on implementation in the given circuit.

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In the given circuit we have to find the output voltage , the voltage drop across resistance RL (RL = 10KΩ) and the current through the zener diode having zener voltage VZ = 50V

By this question I want to be clear about the way to solve circuits with zener diode...please explain the reasoning.. I have studied that in forward bias , zener diode is shorted..in reverse it is open.. but how to apply it... please explain somewahat in this problem..!:confused:
 

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ranju said:
In the given circuit we have to find the output voltage , the voltage drop across resistance RL (RL = 10KΩ) and the current through the zener diode having zener voltage VZ = 50V

By this question I want to be clear about the way to solve circuits with zener diode...please explain the reasoning.. I have studied that in forward bias , zener diode is shorted..in reverse it is open.. but how to apply it... please explain somewahat in this problem..!:confused:

No, in reverse bias a Zener diode is not open. Can you show us the V-I characteristic curve of a typical Zener diode? When you read about Zener diodes on wikipedia.org, what does it say? How does avalanche breakdown come into play?
 
See first of all I would like you to give me the way how you would solve the circuit I gave...so that I can be somewhat clear...
 
ranju said:
See first of all I would like you to give me the way how you would solve the circuit I gave...so that I can be somewhat clear...

No, that's not how the PF works. We require that you show some effort of your own, before we can provide tutorial help. Especially since the wikipedia entry is fairly clear and instructive.

Please read that article, and see if you can answer your question yourself. Post your work on the solution, and ask specific questions if you still have them.
 
bur what I want to be clear about is not there in wikipedia..I am familiar with that theory but not getting how to apply...! here the diode is in reverse bias..but how to move on further...
I am actually not getting this thing.. I really need your help..
 
ranju said:
bur what I want to be clear about is not there in wikipedia..I am familiar with that theory but not getting how to apply...! here the diode is in reverse bias..but how to move on further...
I am actually not getting this thing.. I really need your help..

What are you not understanding about the V-I characteristic of a Zener diode? What do those curves look like? How can you use that curve to determine the voltages and currents in the circuit that you drew?
 
What berkman said.

You need to look at and understand the I-V characteristics of a Zener diode.

When you first learn about diodes you are usually taught that a forward biased diode is like a short circuit and a reverse biased diode is like an open circuit. However that is a very simplistic model. You now need to learn about more accurate models.

For example what happens if you apply a large reverse bias voltage? Does a reverse biased diode always behave like an open circuit?
 

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