Finding relativistic mass and energy of an electron

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The discussion focuses on calculating the relativistic mass, total energy, and kinetic energy of an electron accelerated to 0.5 times the speed of light. The initial calculations for kinetic energy and relativistic mass were incorrect, prompting clarification on the use of the Lorentz factor (gamma) in relativistic equations. The correct approach involves using gamma to relate rest mass to relativistic mass, leading to accurate energy calculations. The final equations for total energy and kinetic energy were derived, confirming the importance of understanding relativistic effects on mass and energy. The conversation emphasizes the need for a solid grasp of relativistic principles in physics.
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Homework Statement



A resting electron was sped up to 0.5 of the speed of light. Find:
A. relativistic mass of the electron,
B. total energy of the electron,
C. kinetic energy of the electron.

Homework Equations


K = mv^2/2
E=mc^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Let’s first find the kinetic energy:
K = m*v^2/2
K = (9.1*10^-31*0.25*9*10^16)/2 = 1.02375*10^-14 J

Now we should find relativistic mass using E=mc^2.
m(rel) = E/c^2 = (1.02375*10^-14)/(9*10^16) = 1.1375*10^-31 kg

Total energy must be = m(rest)*c^2
Then E(total) = 9.1*10^-31*9*10^16 = 8.19*10^-14 J

Is this solution correct?
And I suppose potential energy = 8.19*10^-14 - 1.02375*10^-14 = 7.16625*10^-14 ? :)
 
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No, that is not correct. Do you have an equation with rest mass and Gamma (which is a relationship that crops up a lot in relativistic formula)?
 
rpthomps said:
No, that is not correct. Do you have an equation with rest mass and Gamma (which is a relationship that crops up a lot in relativistic formula)?
I'm not sure what equation you mean. I found p = mv*gamma, but I don't understand what gamma means there.
 
This is gamma

##\gamma =\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}##
 
You were never taught this?
 
rpthomps said:
You were never taught this?
I have a ton of stuff to figure out by myself in a short period of time, so sorry for stupid questions :( I don't remember anything about relativistic mass from school.
So gamma is also relativistic mass/rest mass?
 
Its not a stupid question, I am just wondering what you know about mass at relativistic speeds. Check out the article I sent, there is a ratio embedded in there that you will find useful. :)
 
rpthomps said:
Its not a stupid question, I am just wondering what you know about mass at relativistic speeds. Check out the article I sent, there is a ratio embedded in there that you will find useful. :)
Ok, then m(rel) = gamma*m(rest)
gamma = sqrt(1-0.25) = sqrt(0.75)
m(rel) = sqrt(0.75)*9.1*10^-31 = 7.88*10^-31

Is it correct now?
 
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Gamma is almost like a way of translating mass/lengths/time from the ordinary or Newtonian way of thinking of life to the relativistic way... It's usually a multiplier of some kind.
 
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AlexPilk said:
Ok, then m(rel) = gamma*m(rest)
gamma = sqrt(1-0.25) = sqrt(0.75)
m(rel) = sqrt(0.75)*9.1*10^-31 = 7.88*10^-31

Is it correct now?

You are close. It should be m_electron/sqrt(0.75)
 
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rpthomps said:
You are close. It should be m_electron/sqrt(0.75)
Hm, but why? On wikipedia the equation is m(rel)/m(rest) = gamma, so gamma*m(rest) = m(rel)
 
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rpthomps said:
This is gamma

##\gamma =\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}##

Mass increases as speed increases
 
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rpthomps said:
Mass increases as speed increases
Right, got it. So then I should plug in relativistic mass as m into K = mv^2/2 and E=mc^2 and get the kinetic and total energies?
Then m = 9.1*10^-31/sqrt(75) = 1.05 * 10^-30
Total energy E = 1.05*10^-30*9*10^16 = 9.45*10^-14
Kinetic energy K = (1.05*10^-30*0.25*9*10^8)/2 = 1.18*10^-22

Or am I wrong again?
 
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Oh, looked it up. KE = mc^2 - m0c^2 = 1.05*10^-30*9*10^16 - 9.1*10^-31*9*10^16 = 1.26*10^-14 J
Now I have to figure what "total energy" means.
KE = Total energy - Potential energy, so I suppose m(rel)*c^2 = 9.45*10^-14 is total energy like I wrote in the previous message? I hope it's correct now? :)
 
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