Finding Solutions to Second Order Differential Equations with Initial Conditions

In summary, the conversation is discussing the solution to a second order constant coefficients ODE, with a repeated root at m=4. The general solution in this case is y = (C1 + C2x)e^(mx). By substituting the given initial conditions, y(0) = 4 and y'(0) = 9, and solving for the constants C1 and C2, it is determined that there is no solution in this case.
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y'' - 8y' + 16 = 0 ; y(0) = 4 ; y'(0) = 9


this should be not too bad but I am stuck in the same place.
m^2 - 8m + 16
m1 = m2 = 4

y = C1e^(mx) + C2(e^(mx))
sub in y(0) = 4
4 = C1 + C2
C1 = 4-C2

y' = mC1e^(mx) + mC2e^(mx)
sub in y'(0) = 9
9 = mC1 + mC2
C1 = 4 - C2 (from above), m=4
9 = 4(4-C2) + 4C2
9 = 16 - 4C2 + 4C2
9 = 16
In this case would there just be no solution or am i missing something?!?
Thank you!
 
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  • #2
If I recall correctly, the general solution in the case of a repeated root for a second order constant coefficients ODE is
[tex]c_1e^{m_1x} + c_2xe^{m_1x}[/tex]
 
  • #3
Hey
The formula you are using for y is only valid if you have to different solutions m, i.e.
[tex]m_{1}\neq{m_{2}} [/tex]

In your case y is given by

[tex]y=(C_{1}+C_{2}x)e^{mx}[/tex]
 
  • #4
thanks!
 
  • #5
Well done, guys.
 

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1. What is a second order differential equation?

A second order differential equation is a mathematical equation that involves the second derivative of a function. It is commonly used to model physical systems and describe their behavior over time.

2. What is the difference between a first and second order differential equation?

The main difference between a first and second order differential equation is the highest derivative present in the equation. A first order differential equation involves the first derivative of a function, while a second order differential equation involves the second derivative of a function.

3. How do you solve a second order differential equation?

To solve a second order differential equation, you need to find the general solution by integrating the equation and then use initial conditions to find the particular solution. Other methods such as separation of variables and substitution can also be used.

4. What are some real-life applications of second order differential equations?

Second order differential equations are commonly used in physics, engineering, and other fields to model the behavior of systems such as oscillating springs, pendulums, and electrical circuits. They can also be used to predict the motion of objects under the influence of various forces.

5. What are some techniques used to solve non-linear second order differential equations?

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