Finding the aceleration of a system

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The discussion revolves around determining the acceleration of a system involving two masses on a ramp, with a focus on the choice of coordinate systems and the implications for the equations of motion.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to reconcile their solution with the solution manual by analyzing the net forces on each mass and questioning the validity of their equations based on their choice of direction. Other participants raise concerns about the implications of choosing different positive directions for acceleration and the necessity of consistent directionality in the analysis.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the effects of different coordinate system choices on the resulting equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of directionality in the setup, but no consensus has been reached on the correctness of the original poster's equations.

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Participants are considering the implications of their coordinate system choices and how these affect the relationships between the accelerations of the two masses. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in directionality to arrive at a correct solution.

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I uploaded a picture with the problem from the textbook and its solution

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The relevante equations are in the attsmpt at a solution

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First of all, i understood the solution from the solution manual, but in my solution the only thing that is different is that i choose the positive x direction to be upwards the ramp , which is the oposite direction choosen in the solution manual
With said, i got the following equation for the NET force on each box
T-m1•g=m1•a
T-m2•g•sin55=m2•a
Doing the álgebra, i get a=-7.4, which is in the same direction as the a from the solution, but with a different magnitude, so my question is, are my 2 equations above wrong?
 

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If you choise both masses' positive direction to be up then one accelerates in the negative direction when the other accelerates in the positive direction, i.e., ##a_1 = -a_2##. You can therefore not use ##a_1 = a_2 = a## and must choose which of the accelerations you solve for.
 
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If you choise both masses' positive direction to be up then one accelerates in the negative direction when the other accelerates in the positive direction, i.e., ##a_1 = -a_2##. You can therefore not use ##a_1 = a_2 = a## and must choose which of the accelerations you solve for.
But shouldn't every choice of coordinate system give us a correct awnser?
 
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It does, but you have to think about the directions. If you do the directions properly, you will get the right answer.
 

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