Finding the Centre of Mass of a Solid Cone

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To find the center of mass of a solid cone, the integration approach involves using thin disks, where the thickness is ideally represented as dy. However, for greater accuracy, dysecθ should be used, as it accounts for the slanted height of the cone. The volume element for the integration should be defined as the area of the disk multiplied by the height dy, incorporating the density. The discussion highlights confusion regarding the appropriate use of dy and dysecθ in the calculations. Ultimately, the correct formulation is crucial for accurately determining the center of mass.
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Homework Statement



Find the centre of mass of solid cone.

Homework Equations



$$y_{cm}=\frac{1}{M}\int_0^Hydm$$

The Attempt at a Solution


First I took thin disks. I got the answer when I assumed its thickness to be dy but then dysecθ would be more accurate if half angle of cone is θ since dysecθ gives the length of the slanted part, while dy would give a cylinder.
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Now I get wrong answer.
 

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AdityaDev said:

Homework Statement



Find the centre of mass of solid cone.

Homework Equations



$$y_{cm}=\frac{1}{M}\int_0^Hydm$$

The Attempt at a Solution


First I took thin disks. I got the answer when I assumed its thickness to be dy but then dysecθ would be more accurate if half angle of cone is θ since dysecθ gives the length of the slanted part, while dy would give a cylinder.
But the volume of a truncated cone is (h pi/3 )(r12+r1r2+r22) where r1 and r2 are the radii of the base plates and h is the height. In case of the volume element, r1≈r2=r and h=dy, so the volume element is that of a disk with radius r and height dy.

Also, you have to use density times Ady instead of dm in the integral.
 
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ehild said:
But the volume of a truncated cone is (h pi/3 )(r12+r1r2+r22) where r1 and r2 are the radii of the base plates and h is the height. In case of the volume element, r1≈r2=r and h=dy, so the volume element is that of a disk with radius r and height dy.

Also, you have to use density times dy instead of dm in the integral.
OK. But what's wrong in dysecθ?
 
Nothing is wrong with it if you do not use it instead of dy.
 
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