Finding the Limit of ln((2x)^(2x))/(3x²+1) with x→∞

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of the expression ln((2x)^(2x))/(3x²+1) as x approaches infinity. This involves concepts from calculus, particularly limits and logarithmic functions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss attempts to evaluate the limit using different approaches, including a transformation of the limit expression. There are questions about the validity of flipping the numerator and denominator in the limit process. One participant expresses a need for alternative methods since L'Hopital's rule is not permitted.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various methods to approach the limit without reaching a consensus. Some guidance has been offered regarding the growth rates of logarithmic functions compared to polynomial functions.

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One participant notes a restriction against using L'Hopital's rule, which may influence the methods discussed. There is also an indication that initial attempts may not align with standard limit evaluation techniques.

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Homework Statement


find the following limit: ln((2x)^(2x))/(3x²+1) with x>infinity.


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried the following: lim ( ln((2x)^(2x))/(3x²+1) ) with x>infity =
lim ( (3x²+1)/ln((2x)^(2x)) ) with x>0
lim 2xln(2x) with x>0 = 0, therefore lim ( (3x²+1)/(2xln(2x)) with x>0 =
1/0 which is infinity, a simple plot however shows this is wrong, could someone help me?
 
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eric123 said:

Homework Statement


find the following limit: ln((2x)^(2x))/(3x²+1) with x>infinity.


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried the following: lim ( ln((2x)^(2x))/(3x²+1) ) with x>infity =
lim ( (3x²+1)/ln((2x)^(2x)) ) with x>0
The step above isn't valid. There is no theorem that says that
[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty} \frac{a}{b}~=~\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{b}{a}[/tex]
which is what it seems you have done. IOW, you can't just flip the numerator and denominator and change the limit variable.

As x gets large without bound, both numerator and denominator also get large without bound. The simplest way to do this, I believe, would be to use L'Hopital's Rule.
eric123 said:
lim 2xln(2x) with x>0 = 0, therefore lim ( (3x²+1)/(2xln(2x)) with x>0 =
1/0 which is infinity, a simple plot however shows this is wrong, could someone help me?
 
okay, thank you.
I am, however, not allowed to use L´Hopital´s rule..
does anyone know a method besides L´Hopital´s rule?
 
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