Finding the North Pole of a Magnet Using the Right Hand Rule

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The discussion revolves around determining the north pole of a magnet using the right-hand rule in the context of a current-carrying rod positioned between the poles of a magnet. The original poster seeks clarification on the application of the right-hand rule and its relevance to the magnetic field and force interactions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the right-hand rule's application and its distinction from Fleming's left-hand rule. There is an exploration of the magnetic field direction created by the current versus the magnetic force acting on the current due to the external magnetic field.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the use of different right-hand rules and their equivalence, while others have questioned the necessity of distinguishing between the right-hand and left-hand rules. The discussion appears to be ongoing, with participants seeking further clarification and assistance.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of various right-hand and left-hand rules, with some participants noting that recent textbooks focus primarily on right-hand rules. The original poster's understanding of the problem setup and the specific magnetic interactions involved is still being developed.

Cici2017

Homework Statement


A current carrying rod is held horizontally between the poles of a magnet by a magnetic force.
magnet-current (into the page) -magnet
determine which side is the north pole of the magnet?

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The Attempt at a Solution


If I use the right hand rule, then the magnetic field direction is clockwise around the current.
Is this right? What do I do next?

Thanks~
 
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Cici2017 said:
If I use the right hand rule, then the magnetic field direction is clockwise around the current.
You don't want the magnetic field created by the current. You want the force on the current due to the magnetic field of the magnet.
 
There are various right-hand rules and left-hand rules that people have invented. Most recent textbooks that I have seen talk only about certain right-hand rules and don't mention any left-hand rules. But if you are familiar with Fleming's left-hand rule, then you can use it for this problem.

The right-hand rule to which @Doc Al refers is just as good and will yield the same result.
 
TSny said:
There are various right-hand rules and left-hand rules that people have invented. Most recent textbooks that I have seen talk only about certain right-hand rules and don't mention any left-hand rules. But if you are familiar with Fleming's left-hand rule, then you can use it for this problem.

The right-hand rule to which @Doc Al refers is just as good and will yield the same result.
Got it! Thank you so much~
 
AuroraUsa said:
I can help you if you are still in a need.
Hi, thank you! Can you please help me with this? It is a follow- up question of the previous one:
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