Finding z component of center of mass of a complex shape

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The discussion revolves around calculating the z-coordinate of the center of mass for a unit consisting of a circular disk, a round shaft, and a square plate. The total mass of the unit is determined to be 9.5 kg, with the calculated z-coordinate of the center of mass being 26.5 mm. Participants emphasize the importance of including a diagram to clarify the orientation and dimensions of the components. There is a debate regarding the z-coordinate of the square plate, with some confusion about its assumed thickness and how it affects the center of mass. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the need for clear assumptions and accurate calculations in determining the center of mass.
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The rigidly connected unit consists of a 2.5-kg circular disk, a 2.8-kg round shaft, and a 4.2-kg square plate. Determine the z-coordinate of the mass center of the unit.

Homework Equations


∑zm/∑m

The Attempt at a Solution


Circular disk:
mass = 2.5 kg
z = 0
zm = 0
Round Shaft:
mass = 2.8 kg
z = 180/2 = 90
zm = 90(2.8) = 252
Square plate:
mass = 4.2 kg
z = 0
zm = 0

Total mass = 2.5+2.8+4.2 = 9.5 kg
Total mz = 252

∑zm/∑m = 252/9.5 = 26.5 mm
 

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Ella Tankersley said:
The rigidly connected unit consists of a 2.5-kg circular disk, a 2.8-kg round shaft, and a 4.2-kg square plate. Determine the z-coordinate of the mass center of the unit.
I think we'll want to see a diagram or better description of the orientations, placement, and dimensions of the objects. We shouldn't have to fish about in your solution equations to find the statement of the problem.
 
gneill said:
I think we'll want to see a diagram or better description of the orientations, placement, and dimensions of the objects. We shouldn't have to fish about in your solution equations to find the statement of the problem.
I added a diagram, can you see it?
 
Ella Tankersley said:
I added a diagram, can you see it?
Ah! Much better! Thanks.
 
Ella Tankersley said:
Square plate:
mass = 4.2 kg
z = 0
zm = 0
I don't understand this calculation. Why is the plate at z = 0?
 
gneill said:
I don't understand this calculation. Why is the plate at z = 0?
I was assuming that the plate is very thin so there is no thickness in the z direction
 
Ella Tankersley said:
I was assuming that the plate is very thin so there is no thickness in the z direction
What has the plate's thickness have to do with its center of mass position with respect to the xy plane?

Edit: removed spurious thought that I thought I'd removed before posting. Sorry about that.
 
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Ella Tankersley said:
I was assuming that the plate is very thin so there is no thickness in the z direction

OK, so assume the mass of the plate is all at the same z value. And that's the z coordinate of the center of mass. What is that z value?

Let me put it a different way. You figure the center of mass of the circular disk is at z = 0. Fine. Now suppose I pick the disk up, raise it 20 meters. Is its center of mass still at z = 0?
 
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