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A cylindrical bucket with a height of 27.0 cm and a diameter of 13.0 cm has a hole at the bottom with a cross-sectional area of 1.49 cm². Water flows into the bucket at a rate of 2.28×10⁻⁴ m³/s, leading to calculated velocities of 0.01718 m/s at the top and 0.01530 m/s at the bottom. Using Bernoulli's principle, the height difference derived was 0.00179 m, which did not match expected values. Suggestions included checking unit conversions and applying Torricelli's equation, which provided a height of 0.119 m. The discussion highlighted the importance of considering the velocity of water at the top of the bucket when applying these equations.
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A cylindrical bucket, open at the top has height 27.0 cm and diameter 13.0 cm. A circular hole with a cross-sectional area 1.49 cm^2 is cut in the center of the bottom of the bucket. Water flows into the bucket from a tube above it at the rate of 2.28×10−4 m^3/s

my work
let 1 denote the top and 2 denote the bottom

Q = V1A1
V1 = Q/A = 0.01718 m/s

Q = V2A2
V2 = 0.01530 m/s

using bernoulli's
top bottom
P + pgh + 1/2pv^2 = pgh + 1/2pv^2 + P
P's are equal and cancels out
rho's cancel out
there's no pgh on bottom
we are left with
h = [ 1/2(v2)^2-1/2(v1)^2 ] /g

the answer i get is 0.00179m which is 0.1179 cm but that's not the answer...can anyone see where i went wrong? thank you very much.
 
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neoking77 said:
A cylindrical bucket, open at the top has height 27.0 cm and diameter 13.0 cm. A circular hole with a cross-sectional area 1.49 cm^2 is cut in the center of the bottom of the bucket. Water flows into the bucket from a tube above it at the rate of 2.28×10−4 m^3/s

my work
let 1 denote the top and 2 denote the bottom

Q = V1A1
V1 = Q/A = 0.01718 m/s

Q = V2A2
V2 = 0.01530 m/s

using bernoulli's
top bottom
P + pgh + 1/2pv^2 = pgh + 1/2pv^2 + P
P's are equal and cancels out
rho's cancel out
there's no pgh on bottom
we are left with
h = [ 1/2(v2)^2-1/2(v1)^2 ] /g

the answer i get is 0.00179m which is 0.1179 cm but that's not the answer...can anyone see where i went wrong? thank you very much.

you're probably forgetting to convert something from cm to m or some such thing... I found

h=0.11725 meters

actually, only good to 2 sig fig?

h=0.12 meters
 
really? ? any idea what i converted wrong?
did you get 0.01718m/s and 0.01530m/s for velocities? ... hm
 
neoking77 said:
really? ? any idea what i converted wrong?

no idea. sorry.

did you get 0.01718m/s and 0.01530m/s for velocities? ... hm

I don't remember off hand, if I can find my scratch-paper I'll let you know.

good luck.
 
1cm^2 = .0001m^2 so 2.28x10^-4/1.49x10^-4 gives a velocity of 1.53m/s

I just plugged it into toricelli's equation (v1=sqrt(2g(h2-h1)) and solved for h2 (h1 is 0), which gave the answer .119m = 11.9cm.
 
p0nda said:
1cm^2 = .0001m^2 so 2.28x10^-4/1.49x10^-4 gives a velocity of 1.53m/s

I just plugged it into toricelli's equation (v1=sqrt(2g(h2-h1)) and solved for h2 (h1 is 0), which gave the answer .119m = 11.9cm.

that neglects the velocity of the water at the top of the bucket... valid if A_top >> A_bottom only.
 
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