Fluid Mechanics: Compressible Fluids, density function

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The discussion revolves around a fluid mechanics problem concerning compressible fluids, specifically how density varies with pressure and depth. The original poster attempts to derive a relationship for density as a function of pressure and depth, given that the fluid has appreciable compressibility.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the integration of equations related to compressibility and density, questioning the limits of integration and the relationship between mass, density, and volume. There is also exploration of the implications of varying density and volume on the overall mass.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide feedback on the original poster's integration approach and suggest corrections regarding the limits of integration. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the compressibility condition and how it affects the relationship between density and volume.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of correctly applying the definitions of density and compressibility, as well as the need to eliminate variables appropriately. The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the correct approach but shows productive engagement with the problem.

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Homework Statement


"Suppose that a liquid has an appreciable compressibility. Its density therefore varies with depth and pressure. The density at the surface is ρ0
(a) Show that the density varies with pressure according to ρ=ρ0ekp where P is gauge pressure at any depth and k is the compressibility, a constant.
(b) Find P as a function of depth y.

Homework Equations


ρ = m/V (Density definition)
k = (1/V)(ΔV/ΔP) (Compressiblity definition)
dP/dy = ρg (Pascal's Law)
My professor also hinted that I should replace any deltas with differentials, that I need to eliminate V, and to find dρ/dV (which is -m/V2

The Attempt at a Solution


From the second equation, I multiplied both sides by dP (after changing ΔV to dV and ΔP to dP) to obtain the following:
k dP = (1/V) dV
I then integrated both sides:
∫k dP (from P0 to P) = ∫(1/V) dV (from 0 to V)
kP(gauge)=ln(V)
ekP(gauge) = V
I get the feeling that I'm going in the correct direction, but haven't found a viable solution from this point. I fooled around with the density definition and Pascal's Law to no avail. Any assistance would be much appreciated.
 
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Good start! Your integration limits on V are incorrect. They should be from V0 to V. Also, for a given amount of mass the product of density and volume is constant.
 
Chestermiller said:
Good start! Your integration limits on V are incorrect. They should be from V0 to V. Also, for a given amount of mass the product of density and volume is constant.

When I intergrate on those limits I get kP(gauge)=ln(V)-ln(V0), which seems to be worse than before.
Also, if m = ρV is constant, how does that work with ρ and V both being varying functions?
 
runningninja said:
When I intergrate on those limits I get kP(gauge)=ln(V)-ln(V0), which seems to be worse than before.
Also, if m = ρV is constant, how does that work with ρ and V both being varying functions?
The compressibility condition should have a minus sign (the volume decreases with increasing pressure):

k dP = -(1/V) dV

[tex]\frac{V}{V_0}=\frac{\rho_0}{\rho}=e^{-kP}[/tex]
 
I understand where the v/v0 came from (the ln) but how did you derive p0/p? Did it come from another integral somewhere?
EDIT: nvm, I understand now. Thanks a bunch!
 

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