Fluid Mechanics Velocity at Outlet

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the average velocity of water at the outlet of a pipe, considering the effects of water injected through the porous walls. Participants explore the application of fluid mechanics principles, specifically conservation of mass, and address potential errors in their calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the mass flow rate of water entering the pipe and expresses uncertainty about the area calculation for the pipe.
  • Another participant questions whether the circumference of the pipe is equal to its diameter, indicating confusion about the geometric relationships involved.
  • Some participants acknowledge that the given length of the porous wall may not be relevant to the calculations.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the correct formula for calculating the circumference of the pipe.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty about specific calculations and the relevance of certain parameters, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential errors in area calculations and the interpretation of geometric dimensions, but do not resolve these issues definitively.

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Homework Statement


Water flows through a 1.5 [in] diameter pipe. In a 1.5 [ft] section of the pipe water is injected through the porous walls into the pipe at a velocity of 3 [in/s]. What is the average velocity at the exit if the inlet velocity is 6 [ft/s]?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I used 62.4 lb/ft3 for the density of water.
I calculated the area of the pipe to be A=πR2=0.01227 ft3
m1=ρAv=(62.4)(0.01227)(6)=4.59 lb/s

Aw=DL=(1.5/12)(1.5)=0.1875 ft^2 I'm not super confident that this area is correct...
mw=ρAwvw=(62.4)(0.1875)(3/12)=2.925 lb/s

Then I used the conservation of mass...
m1+mw=m2
(4.59)+(2.925)=m2
m2=7.25 lb/s

Now just plug into formula to get vout
vout=(m2)/(ρA)=(7.52)/(62.4*0.01227)
vout=9.82 ft/s

Which is wrong... My options are 7 ft/s, 18 ft/s, 28 ft/s, and 150 ft/s.
I'm not sure what I did wrong!
 

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jdawg said:

Homework Statement


Water flows through a 1.5 [in] diameter pipe. In a 1.5 [ft] section of the pipe water is injected through the porous walls into the pipe at a velocity of 3 [in/s]. What is the average velocity at the exit if the inlet velocity is 6 [ft/s]?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I used 62.4 lb/ft3 for the density of water.
I calculated the area of the pipe to be A=πR2=0.01227 ft3
m1=ρAv=(62.4)(0.01227)(6)=4.59 lb/s
This calculation seems to be OK.
Aw=DL=(1.5/12)(1.5)=0.1875 ft^2 I'm not super confident that this area is correct...
mw=ρAwvw=(62.4)(0.1875)(3/12)=2.925 lb/s
Is the circumference of a circular pipe equal to its diameter? Or is it equal to something else?
 
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Haha I knew that area couldn't be right... I got thrown off because I was given the length of the porous wall. So is that length L just useless information?
 
jdawg said:
Haha I knew that area couldn't be right... I got thrown off because I was given the length of the porous wall. So is that length L just useless information?
No, it's not the length that's the problem with the calculation.

I mentioned specifically the circumference of the pipe and how you calculated it.
 
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Oops sorry. That makes more sense. Circumference=2πr*h=0.0625ft2. Thanks!
 
jdawg said:
Oops sorry. That makes more sense. Circumference=2πr*h=0.0625ft2. Thanks!
What's h supposed to be?
 
Oops, that's the length L!
 

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