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For any open interval containing limsup s_n, there exists infinitely many s_n .

  1. Aug 12, 2009 #1
    For any open interval containing limsup s_n, there exists infinitely many s_n.....

    Hi all! I'm new to this fantastic forum! Please help me with the following problem! Thanks in advance!

    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    Suppose that the sequence [tex](s_n)[/tex] is bounded in [tex]\mathbb{R}[/tex]. Prove: Given any open interval containing [tex]\limsup s_n[/tex], there exists infinitely many [tex]n[/tex] with [tex]s_n[/tex] inside that interval.

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    In light of the given statement, what is the issue with "open interval"? That is, does this statement hold (or not hold) if it said "closed interval" instead? And why?
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  3. Aug 12, 2009 #2
    A singleton is a closed interval which is not an infinite set, and thus can't contain an infinite set. Every non-singleton real interval contains an open interval, so the theorem holds for this more convoluted object. It is much easier to say open interval.
  4. Aug 12, 2009 #3


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    Call your limsup L. The point to saying the interval is open is that you then can find an epsilon such that (L-epsilon,L+epsilon) is contained in the interval. Suppose that subinterval contains only finitely many sn's. Then can L really be the limsup?
  5. Aug 12, 2009 #4
    I understand perfectly the [tex](L - \varepsilon, L + \varepsilon)[/tex] argument --- in fact, that was how I proved the original (unmodified) statement. But thanks for the input :)

    Ahh... I see, so the only reason of using the phrase "open interval" is to avoid trivial cases where a closed interval is a singleton / contains only one point. Great! Thanks :)
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