Force Analysis in Circular Pipe: How to Approach Vertical Force Balance?

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In analyzing laminar flow in a circular pipe, the horizontal force balance indicates that the pressure gradient along the pipe axis (x-direction) is zero. However, the vertical force balance remains unclear, particularly regarding the viscous forces acting on the fluid element. The discussion highlights the importance of using appropriate methods, such as shell momentum balances or the Navier-Stokes equations, rather than Stokes' Law, which is deemed unsuitable for this scenario. Participants emphasize the need for a solid understanding of fluid mechanics concepts, including the stress tensor and Newton's law of viscosity. A comprehensive approach to the problem requires familiarity with these foundational principles.
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"Consider a fully developed laminar flow in a circular pipe, perform force analysis on an element of the real fluid."

I've just started this type of question, and I'm a bit confused about where to go from here:

I've managed to do a force balance horizontally to show that the partial derivative of pressure with respect to x should be zero (which is obvious anyway?), but I have no idea what to do with the vertical force balance and what the question is really asking me to do.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Are you assuming that the pipe is horizontal or vertical?
 
The pipe is horizontal in the diagram, sorry should have mentioned that.
 
cruckshank said:
The pipe is horizontal in the diagram, sorry should have mentioned that.
Is x the direction along the pipe axis?
 
Yes, along the pipe axis.
 
cruckshank said:
Yes, along the pipe axis.
What was your rationale for saying that the partial derivative of the pressure with respect to x is zero?
 
I did a force balance on the horizontal and it came out with that, which I believe is correct?

I have no idea about the vertical force balance though.
 
cruckshank said:
I did a force balance on the horizontal and it came out with that, which I believe is correct?
It is not correct. How are you supposed to be doing this: (a) using shell momentum balances or (b) using the Navier Stokes equations?

What forces are acting horizontally on the fluid, besides the pressures.
 
I haven't heard of either of these methods, and upon looking them up they don't look familiar to me either.

I forgot about the viscous force acting on the fluid element I think. Would I represent this using Stoke's Law or some other way? If using Stoke's law would the radius be the pipe radius or the fluid element's radius?

Thanks
 
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Are you currently taking a course in Fluid Mechanics? What textbook are you using? Have you ever heard of the book Transport Phenomena by Bird, Stewart, and Lightfoot? Are you familiar with the following concepts: stress tensor, Newton's law of viscosity?

Stokes Law would not be appropriate for this problem.
 
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