Force and motion problem with two tensions and 3 masses and an ideal pulley

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The problem involves two clay pots connected by a string on a table and a suspended mass, requiring the calculation of tensions and acceleration when the mass is released. The equations of motion are set up using the forces acting on each mass, including friction and gravitational force. An initial attempt at solving the equations reveals a sign error in the acceleration terms, which is corrected during the discussion. The final results indicate an acceleration of 0.64 m/s², with tensions T1 calculated at 24 N and T2 at 37 N. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly assigning signs to forces in physics problems.
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Homework Statement



Two clay pots (m1 = 6 kg, m2 = 3 kg) joined together by a light string rest on a table. The frictional coefficient between the pots and the table is 0.35. The pots are also joined to a suspended mass (m3 = 4kg) by a string of negligible mass passed over an ideal pulley as shown. Calculate the tensions in strings and the acceleration of the system when the suspended mass is released.

Homework Equations



Ffr=uN
SumF=ma
w=9.81*m


The Attempt at a Solution



sumFm3=T2 + Wm3, m*a=T2- (4kg*9.81), ------> 4a=T2-39.2 (eq1)
sumFm1+m2 y= FNy+FGy, N-w=m*a , N-w=0, w=N, 9.81*9kg= N, 88.29=N
Ffriction=uN, Ffr=0.35 * 88.29N, Ffr=30.9015
sumFm1+m2 x= T2-Ffr, 9*a=T2-30.9015 (eq2.)

Subtracting eq1 from eq 2 gives me 5a=8.2985, a =1.6597
plugging a back into equation 1 gives me 45.839 for T2
sumFm2=T1-Ffr, m*a= T1- N, N=(.35 * 6 * 9.81), 6(1.6597)=T1-20.601, T1=30.6692 N

The answers are: .64m/sˆ2 for a and T1=24N and T2=37N.
 
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runphysicsrun said:
sumFm3=T2 + Wm3, m*a=T2- (4kg*9.81), ------> 4a=T2-39.2 (eq1)
sumFm1+m2 y= FNy+FGy, N-w=m*a , N-w=0, w=N, 9.81*9kg= N, 88.29=N
Ffriction=uN, Ffr=0.35 * 88.29N, Ffr=30.9015
sumFm1+m2 x= T2-Ffr, 9*a=T2-30.9015 (eq2.)
You have a sign problem in your equations. If the acceleration of m1 & m2 is 'a' to the right, then the acceleration of m3 is 'a' downward. Give those accelerations the proper signs.
 
[PLAIN]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14756133/physics%20two%20clay%20pots.pngSorry. I accidentally typed plus. If you look at the following equation, though, I have it as a minus. I'm subtracting the force due to gravity from the force due to tension in the downward motion of mass 3. and my positive direction is right for m1 and m2. There's an image of the problem!
 
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Wait. I just understood what you were talking about. So it should read -4a = T2-39.2! Thanks!
 
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