Force between two uniformly charged identical rods

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The discussion focuses on calculating the force exerted by one uniformly charged rod on another identical rod, both carrying charge +Q and positioned along the x-axis. The force is derived using the formula F = (k Q^2 / 4a^2) ln(b^2 / (b^2 - 4a^2)). The electric field produced by the left rod at a point x > 2a is expressed as E_1(x) = (k Q_1 / (x^2 - a^2)). The final force calculation involves integrating the electric field over the appropriate limits, leading to the corrected expression for force on the second rod.

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Homework Statement


Identical thin rods of length 2a carry equal charges, +Q, uniformly distributed along their lengths. The rods lie along the x-axis with their centers separated by a distance b > 2a. Find the force, F, exerted by the left rod on the right one.

Left rod's center @ (0,0) → rod stretches from (-a,0) to (a,0)
Right rod's center @ (b,0) → rod stretches from (b-a, 0) to (b+a, 0)

Homework Equations


They give that

[tex]F = \frac{k Q^2}{4 a^2} \ln \frac{b^2}{b^2 -4a^2}[/tex]

Also we know that [tex]λ = \frac{Q}{2a} = \frac{dQ}{dx} , \space and \space Q = Q_1 = Q_2[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Electric field produced by rod 1 at a point x > 2a:

[tex]E_1(x) = \int \frac{k}{χ^2}dQ = \int_{x-a}^{x+a} \frac{k}{χ^2} λ dχ = \int_{x-a}^{x+a} \frac{k}{χ^2} \frac{Q_1}{2a} dχ = \frac{k Q_1}{2a} \int_{x-a}^{x+a} \frac{dχ}{χ^2}[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{k Q_1}{x^2 - a^2}[/tex]

Now I understand that FTOT = Ʃ qiE1(xi),
where qi are the infinitesimal contributions of Q2 (= Q).

So shouldn't I have [tex]F = \int_{x-a}^{x+a} E_1(χ) λ dχ ?[/tex]

If so then I have:

[tex]F = \int_{x-a}^{x+a} \frac{k Q_1}{χ^2 - a^2} \frac{Q_2}{2a} dχ[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{k Q^2}{2a}\int_{x-a}^{x+a} \frac {dχ}{χ^2 - a^2}[/tex]

And I'm stuck.
 
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By the way I used chi (χ) as a dummy variable when integrating since I wanted to obtain E as a function of position along the x-axis.

Thus, [tex]E_1(x= b) = \frac{k Q_1}{b^2-a^2}[/tex]

Edit:

I think I might've solve it now. Instead of cancelling 2a out when I calculated E1(x), I just left it.

So then [tex]E_1(x) = \frac{k Q_1}{2a} (\frac{1}{x-a} - \frac{1}{x+a})[/tex]

Then in finding the Force on rod 2 my range of integration should specifically be from b-a to b+a (not x-a to x+a).

So, [tex]F = \frac{k Q^2}{4a^2}\int_{b-a}^{b+a} (\frac{1}{χ-a} - \frac{1}{χ+a}) dχ[/tex]
 
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