Force problem for elastic stretch

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The force required to elastically stretch a wire is calculated using the formula F = (l - lo / lo) EA, where E is the elastic modulus and A is the cross-sectional area. The discussion focuses on computing the force for a gold nanowire stretched from E-I to E-II, with given lengths of 10 Angstroms and 8 Angstroms. A key issue raised is the lack of information to determine the cross-sectional area (A) of the wire, as no mass or density values are provided. Without these values, it is impossible to solve the problem accurately. The conversation highlights the need for complete data to analyze the behavior of the nanowire compared to bulk gold.
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The force required to elastically stretch a wire is given by:

F= ( l - lo / lo ) EA

where A is the cross-sectional area of the wire, lo is the length of the unstretched wire and l the length of the wire after it is stretched. E is the elastic modulus, sometimes called Young's modulus. Using this equation, compute the force as a function of distance stretched for the gold nanowire as it is stretched from E-I to E-II. The elastic modulus for bulk pure gold is 7.448 x 10^10 Pa. Is the behavior of the nanowire qualitatively/quantitatively different from that of the bulk?

my work:

l value = 10 Angstroms (from my graph of E-II)
lo value = 8 Angstromgs (from my graph of E-I)

F = (10-8)/8 * (7.448x10^10 Pa) A

my problem is how would i find the value for the cross-sectional area of the wire (A)? is there a formula i can use to calculate the cross-secitonal area?
 
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hackerdiety03 said:
my problem is how would i find the value for the cross-sectional area of the wire (A)? is there a formula i can use to calculate the cross-secitonal area?
Does the problem give you the mass of the wire? If it did, you can compute the mass/length and find A from: \rho A = m/l. Otherwise, you don't have sufficient information here to solve the problem.

AM
 
im not really given any values for EI-EII which is the configuration of the Au3-SCH3 molecule. instead, the length of the wire from the distance in which it was stretched. this is all in a graph dealing with nanwires.
 
hackerdiety03 said:
im not really given any values for EI-EII which is the configuration of the Au3-SCH3 molecule. instead, the length of the wire from the distance in which it was stretched. this is all in a graph dealing with nanwires.
Why not just give us, word for word, the actual problem and post a copy of the graph. There is something missing from the information provided.

AM
 
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