Force problem with three masses and two pulleys

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves an apparatus with three masses and two pulleys, where the goal is to determine the minimum coefficient of static friction needed to keep the system at rest. The masses are specified as m1 = 0.10 kg, m2 = 0.20 kg, and m3 = 0.30 kg, under ideal conditions for the string and pulleys.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply concepts from videos on similar problems, using a formula to calculate acceleration while adjusting for the coefficient of friction. They express uncertainty about the steps needed to solve for the coefficient of static friction.

Discussion Status

Participants are seeking clarification on the problem setup, particularly the need for a visual representation of the apparatus. Some participants point out discrepancies in the mass values used in the calculations and emphasize the importance of understanding the frictional force required to maintain equilibrium.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes that this assignment is extra credit and that they have not yet been taught how to solve these types of problems in class.

Dayanara Avilez
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Homework Statement


For the apparatus in the figure, what is the minimum value of the coefficient of static friction between the block (m3) and the table that would keep the system at rest if m1 = 0.10 kg, m2 = 0.20 kg, and m3 = 0.30 kg? (Assume ideal conditions for the string and pulleys.)

Homework Equations


F=ma
a= Fnet/mtotal

The Attempt at a Solution


This assignment is extra credit since we haven't been taught how to solve these problems yet. I watched multiple three mass, two pulley videos.They are all solving for acceleration with the mu value. I tried using what I saw to adjust to my situation.

I attempted using the formula a=Fnet/Mtotal
a=((4kg)(9.8m/s^2)-(1kg)(9.8m/s^2)(mu)-(2kg)(9.8m/s^2))/7kg

I plugged in my known values
a=(39.2−(9.8)(μ)−19.6)/7

I then moved my 7 over to the a
7a=39.2−(9.8)(μ)−19.6

I am assuming that I should be able calculate acceleration with my known values since I'm solving for mu but haven't figured out the steps to do so
 
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Hi Dayanara Avilez and welcome to PF.

Can you please post the figure? Without it it's hard to check your work.
 
Probably be easier to help you if you actually posted the figure you are referencing
 
Sorry for the delay! I was figuring out how to attach photos once I saw the replies
phinds said:
Probably be easier to help you if you actually posted the figure you are referencing

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Dayanara Avilez said:
a=((4kg)(9.8m/s^2)-(1kg)(9.8m/s^2)(mu)-(2kg)(9.8m/s^2))/7kg
These masses do not match your problem statement.
Also, you seem to be calculating the acceleration that would occur without friction. In this question, there is just enough friction to prevent acceleration. So how strong is the frictional force?
 

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