Forces and Moments acting on an entire system.

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The problem involves analyzing the forces and moments acting on a ceiling-mounted bicycle rack, specifically focusing on the components ABC and BD. The rack is subjected to a weight of 200 N and requires the determination of forces and moments throughout its structure.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of moments at points B and C, with one participant questioning the interpretation of forces acting on point A. There is a suggestion to reconsider the moments taken about different points, particularly point C, to account for contributions from other forces.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem statement. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of moments and the relevance of forces acting at various points, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or assumptions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that there may be missing information in the problem statement, particularly regarding the presence of horizontal forces. There is also a discussion about the implications of assuming no force acts at point A.

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Homework Statement


The ceiling-mounted bicycle rack (shown in "Capture" image in attachments) with dimensions p = 50 mm, q = 1000 mm and r = 150 mm for a bicycle that weighs F = 200 N.

The rack is to be made from two parts, ABC and BD, cut from a steel tube and then welded together at B.

Determine the forces and moments acting on the whole rack, ABCD.


Homework Equations



The only equations that I can see would be relevant here are the force and moment equations:
M = (F*d)
Ʃ M = 0
Ʃ F = o

The Attempt at a Solution



I have found M(of B) and M(of C) by doing the following:

M(of B) = 200*0.15 = 30Nm Clockwise

Therefore, 30 = 0.05*F(at A), so F(at A) = 600N

So... M(of C) = 1.05*600 = 630Nm Clockwise.

So I have found M at points B and C, and the force at A, however I am not confident that is what's required of the question. What does it mean by "the forces and moments acting on the whole rack ABCD"??
 

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There seems to be something missing in the problem statement. I gather from your attempted solution that there is a a horizontal force FA at A.
proctortom said:
I have found M(of B) and M(of C) by doing the following:

M(of B) = 200*0.15 = 30Nm Clockwise

Therefore, 30 = 0.05*F(at A), so F(at A) = 600N
If you are taking moments about B then you must consider a contribution from the force at C. It does not necessarily act vertically. Better might be to take moments about C.
 
haruspex said:
There seems to be something missing in the problem statement. I gather from your attempted solution that there is a a horizontal force FA at A.

If you are taking moments about B then you must consider a contribution from the force at C. It does not necessarily act vertically. Better might be to take moments about C.

There is no acting force on A. I just calculated that because if there is a moment at B, then having the 200N force at D would be the equivalent of having a Force of 600N at A. Am I wrong?
 
proctortom said:
There is no acting force on A. I just calculated that because if there is a moment at B, then having the 200N force at D would be the equivalent of having a Force of 600N at A. Am I wrong?
Yes, that'd be wrong. If there's no force acting below B then the piece of the rack below B is irrelevant. Just take moments about C.
The question is fairly clear: what are all the forces and moments acting on the rack, assuming it stays in balance?

All that said, the question looks strange to me. It would be more reasonable if there were a horizontal force at A.
 

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