Forces question - acceleration of a rocket

AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers on the acceleration of a rocket traveling towards the moon with constant thrust. As the rocket moves away from Earth, the gravitational attraction decreases, leading to an increase in acceleration due to the resultant force. The concept of an equilibrium point, where gravitational forces from Earth and the moon balance, is debated, with clarification that acceleration will not be zero at this point because the rocket continues to thrust. Additionally, as the rocket consumes fuel, its mass decreases, further increasing acceleration according to Newton's second law. Overall, the acceleration of the rocket increases as it approaches the moon, influenced by both decreasing mass and changing gravitational forces.
QueenFisher
A simple rocket flying towards the moon has a constant thrust from its engine. Will the acceleration remain constant? If not, how will it vary with time?
this is a question I've been given to think about. obviously i don't want any outright answers, can anyone tell me if I'm going in the right direction here?

i think that as it gets further away from the earth, the gravitational attraction between the rocket and the Earth becomes less. as the acceleration depends on the resultant force, as it gets further away, the acceleration will increase. at the equilibrium point, will it have zero acceleration?
after the equilibrium point, the gravitational attraction between the rocket and the moon will be increasing as the rocket approaches the moon, so the reultant force will be increasing, so the acceleration will be increasing.

any comments would be great :smile:
 
Physics news on Phys.org
QueenFisher said:
A simple rocket flying towards the moon has a constant thrust from its engine. Will the acceleration remain constant? If not, how will it vary with time?
this is a question I've been given to think about. obviously i don't want any outright answers, can anyone tell me if I'm going in the right direction here?

i think that as it gets further away from the earth, the gravitational attraction between the rocket and the Earth becomes less. as the acceleration depends on the resultant force, as it gets further away, the acceleration will increase. at the equilibrium point, will it have zero acceleration?
after the equilibrium point, the gravitational attraction between the rocket and the moon will be increasing as the rocket approaches the moon, so the reultant force will be increasing, so the acceleration will be increasing.

any comments would be great :smile:

Sounds like a very lucid explanation to me :smile:
 
Also consider what happens to the mass of the rocket as it uses its fuel.
 
as in, as it uses more fuel, it's mass will be less, so the gravitational attraction will be less? does that mean it can accelerate at a faster rate?

also, is the physics ok in my first post?
 
QueenFisher said:
as in, as it uses more fuel, it's mass will be less, so the gravitational attraction will be less? does that mean it can accelerate at a faster rate?

also, is the physics ok in my first post?

You've got it!

Your post sounds good to me :smile:
 
QueenFisher said:
as in, as it uses more fuel, it's mass will be less, so the gravitational attraction will be less? does that mean it can accelerate at a faster rate?

also, is the physics ok in my first post?
the thrust force of the rocket remains constant. The mass decreases. even without consideration of the gravitational force, the acceleration will increase due to Newton's second law, a=F/m.

In your OP, what did you mean by "equilibrium point"? The net zero gravitational point between Earth and Moon? The acceleration won't be zero there (Rocket is still thrusting, or is it?).
 
Chi Meson said:
In your OP, what did you mean by "equilibrium point"? The net zero gravitational point between Earth and Moon?

I think she may have meant on take off. That was my take on it anyway.
 
nah i meant where the Earth's and the moon's gravitational forces can be considered to cancel each other out. i think it's at that point that there will be a constant acceleration...as opposed to constantly changing acceleration?
 
(Thread comes back from the dead)

At the earth-moon equilibrium pont, the gravitational force will not contribute to the rocket's acceleration, but...All the way to, through, and beyond this point the Earth will pull less and less and the Moon will pull more and more. So the acceleration of the rocket will continue to increase as it gets closer to its destination.

The fact that the mass is decreasing the entire time will be a more significant factor to cause an increase in acceleration (as long as the thrust force is constant).
 
  • #10
does that mean that the rocket's acceleration is increasing at a greater rate when it is losing mass due to fuel consumption that if it were not?
 
  • #11
QueenFisher said:
does that mean that the rocket's acceleration is increasing at a greater rate when it is losing mass due to fuel consumption that if it were not?

Yes, remember Newton's law F = ma, so the same force will acclerate an object of a lower mass faster.
 
Back
Top