Webpage title: Optimal Angle for Pulling a Crate with a Friction Rope

In summary, if a person is to pull on the rope with the minimum force needed such that the crate begins to slide, the angle between the rope and the ground should be greater than 0 degrees but less than 90 degrees.
  • #1
yolo123
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A rope is tied to a large crate, which is sitting on a flat surface. The coefficient of static friction between the crate and the ground is 0.9. If a person is to pull on the rope with the minimum force needed such that the crate begins to slide, the angle between the rope and the ground should be
A)

greater than 0 degrees but less than 90 degrees
B)

0 degrees (rope is horizontal)
C)

90 degrees I know the answer is A. I found this question in practice problems for midterms.

Now, I was trying to prove it:
horizontal pulling: F=ukmg.

greater than 0 degrees but less than 90 degrees:
Horizontal component: uk(mg-sinthetaF) (Let F be magnitude of force.)
Vertical component: costhetaF
Total magnitude:
(Pythagoras) and (sin^2theta+cos^2theta=1)
0.81mg-1.8sinthetaF+F^2=Magnitude.

How do I prove 0.81mg-1.8sinthetaF+F^2 > 0.9mg?
 
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  • #2
yolo123 said:
Horizontal component: uk(mg-sinthetaF) (Let F be magnitude of force.)
Vertical component: costhetaF
Total magnitude:
(Pythagoras) and (sin^2theta+cos^2theta=1)
0.81mg-1.8sinthetaF+F^2=Magnitude.
That last expression is incorrect. You seem to have dropped some squarings.
If you had the right expression you could equate that to F and simplify.
A more direct method is just to write out the statics equations in the vertical and horizontal directions.
 
  • #3
What is "Magnitude"?

Try summing the forces in each direction.
 
  • #4
Hi, I don't really understand what you are saying. Could you give more hints?
 
  • #5
The net normal force is mg-Fsin(theta).

So Horizontal force balance is: F cos(theta)-u(mg - Fsin(theta)) = 0

Collecting terms, F(theta) = umg/(cos(theta)-usin(theta)

dF/d(theta) = (umgsin(theta)+u^2mgcos(theta))/(cos(theta)-usin(theta))^2

Setting the derivative to zero gives me an angle of 42 deg. [arctan (0.9)]

Do check my math!
 
  • #6
FermiAged said:
The net normal force is mg-Fsin(theta).

So Horizontal force balance is: F cos(theta)-u(mg - Fsin(theta)) = 0

Collecting terms, F(theta) = umg/(cos(theta)-usin(theta)

dF/d(theta) = (umgsin(theta)+u^2mgcos(theta))/(cos(theta)-usin(theta))^2

Setting the derivative to zero gives me an angle of 42 deg. [arctan (0.9)]

Do check my math!

Hi FermiAged,

This is a Homework Forum. The idea is to provide hints and point out errors, not provide solutions. Please see the guidelines.
 
  • #7
Sorry. Iam new at this and got carried away.
 
  • #8
yolo123 said:
Hi, I don't really understand what you are saying. Could you give more hints?
Do you understand how to draw a free body diagram? How to find the vertical and horizontal components of forces? How to write out the statics equations ∑F=ma=0?
 
  • #9
YES! Do not worry. I solved this problem a few hours ago. Sorry I forgot to give you feedback! I'm stuck on another problem for which I posted another thread. That one is much more conceptual than this one :S
 

1. What is friction?

Friction is a force that opposes the motion of an object when it comes into contact with another object or surface. It is caused by the microscopic irregularities between the two surfaces, which create resistance and make it difficult for the object to move smoothly.

2. How does friction affect a rope tied to a crate?

When a rope is tied to a crate, friction plays a crucial role in keeping the crate stationary. The friction between the rope and the crate prevents the crate from sliding or moving, making it easier to transport or lift.

3. Why is it important to consider friction when tying a crate?

Considering friction when tying a crate is important because it affects the stability and security of the crate. If there is not enough friction between the rope and the crate, it can easily slip or come loose, causing potential damage or injury.

4. How can the amount of friction be increased between the rope and the crate?

The amount of friction between the rope and the crate can be increased by using a rougher or thicker rope, or by tying the rope more tightly around the crate. Adding knots or twists to the rope can also increase the friction and improve the stability of the crate.

5. Can friction be completely eliminated in this scenario?

No, it is not possible to completely eliminate friction between the rope and the crate. However, it can be reduced by using smoother surfaces or lubricants, which can make the movement of the crate easier. However, too much lubrication can also cause the rope to slip, so it is important to find a balance.

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