Gas Turbine TS Cycle: Understanding the Significance of Points 5-5b and 5b-6

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The discussion centers on the significance of points 5-5b and 5b-6 in a gas turbine TS diagram, with the user expressing confusion over their meanings compared to other segments like 1-2 and 6-7. It is noted that while 6-7 represents ideal heat exchange, 6-7b may indicate a practical limit for that stage, suggesting that not all heat can be extracted in a heat exchanger. The user speculates that point 5b could relate to efficiency considerations, and there is uncertainty about whether points 5b and 7b might pertain to a different problem altogether. The conversation highlights the need for clarification on these specific segments in the context of thermodynamic principles. Understanding these points is crucial for grasping the overall efficiency and operation of the gas turbine cycle.
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I am confused what 5-5b and 5b-6 represent in the above TS diagram. I know that 1-2 is compression, 2-3 is cooling, 3-4 is compression and 4-5 is regeneration (since these are indicated in the block diagram) but as for 5-5b and 5b-6 it is less clear. I mean 5-6 is the combustion chamber but what is the significance of the 5-5b and 5b-6 segments? Why have they split it up like this?
 
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Looking over the diagram perhaps if you can explain what's different between 7 and 7b, you might have your answer for 5b?

Beyond this I can't assist; I haven't looked at thermo since my student days.
 
NascentOxygen said:
Looking over the diagram perhaps if you can explain what's different between 7 and 7b, you might have your answer for 5b?

Beyond this I can't assist; I haven't looked at thermo since my student days.
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, I don't get that part either lol. Haven't encountered it in examples provided by my lecturer so far.
 
My guess is that if 6-7 represents the ideal heat exchange, then perhaps 6-7b represents a practical best attainable for that stage. You can't extract all of the heat in a heat exchanger.

I think the image you attached might be too large, it spills out and forces the rest of the page into small size.
 
My view was that 6-7 represents isentropic expansion in the turbine and 6 - 7b the actual expansion. So 5b might ne needed for the efficiency.
 
Is it possible that the points 5b and 7b refer to another problem?
 
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