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The discussion revolves around identifying 'and' and 'or' gates within electrical components, particularly in the context of integrated circuits and Boolean logic. Participants share insights on the physical representation of these gates and reference historical components used in logic circuits.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about how to identify 'and' and 'or' gates within an electrical component and requests visual aids.
  • Another participant explains that one would point to a silicon piece where transistors are patterned, noting that individual transistors may not be visible to the naked eye depending on the manufacturing process.
  • A third participant references historical logic circuit components, specifically the 7400 series, and explains the designation of military versus civilian logic families.
  • Additional resources, such as a classic book on integrated circuits, are suggested for further reading.

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Participants generally agree on the identification of gates within integrated circuits, but there is no consensus on the visibility of individual transistors or the specifics of historical components.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to specific integrated circuit families and historical context, which may not be universally applicable to all modern components.

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OK so I've been reading a lot about gates and Boolean logic lately and I understand how they function but if somebody were to open up the casing of an electrical component and they asked me to point to an 'and' or an 'or' gate what would I point to? Pictures would be very helpful thanks.
 
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Macwoni said:
OK so I've been reading a lot about gates and Boolean logic lately and I understand how they function but if somebody were to open up the casing of an electrical component and they asked me to point to an 'and' or an 'or' gate what would I point to? Pictures would be very helpful thanks.

You'd point to the little piece of silicon that all the leads are wirebonded to. It's just a couple of transistors patterned onto a tiny piece of silicon. (And no, individual transistors probably are not visible to the naked eye--I say probably because it depends on what process was used--hundreds of um used to be a fact of life)

But if you're looking for pictures, look down in this circuit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_circuit
 
Thanks that helped me a lot!
 
this is what you would see in the olden days in school if you were breadboarding logic circuits. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7400

notice that military-spec'd parts were also available in the 5400 series.

the 74 or 54 tells you that it is a civilian or mil logic family, and the next 2 or 3 digits the gate or function type. so a 5400 is a military quad 2-input NAND gate. and letters were added over time to accommodate newer gate technologies.

a classic and still excellent book on these old ICs is Don Lancaster's TTL Cookbook.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0672210355/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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