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The discussion revolves around identifying a general term for a sequence derived from a differential equation solution using the series method. Participants are examining patterns in the sequence: 6, (6)(10), (6)(10)(14), (6)(10)(14)(18), and exploring its representation in terms of products of integers.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to express the nth term of the sequence and are discussing various representations, including the use of double factorial notation and products of odd numbers. There is confusion regarding the correct formulation of the general term.

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Some participants have provided insights into the structure of the sequence and suggested potential formulations. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations and representations of the terms, with no explicit consensus reached on the general term.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the extent of assistance they can provide to one another. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify and understand the patterns without providing direct solutions.

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Homework Statement


hello all,

I'm in the middle of solving a d.e using the series method. I have come across a weird pattern in part of my solution that I'm confused about:

6, (6)(10),(6)(10)(14),(6)(10)(14)(18),...

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I can see its 2(3), 2(3)*2(5), 2(3)*2(5)*2(7)... But I'm a little confused on what the nth term is. Any help?

Also I can see if we start at n=2, (4n-2),(4n-2)(4n-6),(4n-2)(4n-6)(4n-10),... But does anyone know the general term? Thanks!
 
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BrettJimison said:

Homework Statement


hello all,

I'm in the middle of solving a d.e using the series method. I have come across a weird pattern in part of my solution that I'm confused about:

6, (6)(10),(6)(10)(14),(6)(10)(14)(18),...

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I can see its 2(3), 2(3)*2(5), 2(3)*2(5)*2(7)... But I'm a little confused on what the nth term is. Any help?

Also I can see if we start at n=2, (4n-2),(4n-2)(4n-6),(4n-2)(4n-6)(4n-10),... But does anyone know the general term? Thanks!

You could write a general term with the double factorial notation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_factorial
 
You don't really need to use a special notation like the "double factorial".

I presume you see that it is [(2)(3)][(2)(5)][(2)(7)]...[(2)(2n+1)]. So, first, we have n "2"s : 2^n.

Then we have (3)(5)(7)(9)...(2n+1), the product of n consecutive odd numbers. We can write that as
\frac{2(3)(4)(5)(6)(7)(8)(9)...(2n)(2n+1)}{2(4)(6)(8)...(2n)}
The numerator is (2n+1)!. We can write the denominator as [2(1)][2(2)][2(3)][2(4)]...[2(n)]= 2^n n!.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
You don't really need to use a special notation like the "double factorial".

I presume you see that it is [(2)(3)][(2)(5)][(2)(7)]...[(2)(2n+1)]. So, first, we have n "2"s : 2^n.

Then we have (3)(5)(7)(9)...(2n+1), the product of n consecutive odd numbers. We can write that as
\frac{2(3)(4)(5)(6)(7)(8)(9)...(2n)(2n+1)}{2(4)(6)(8)...(2n)}
The numerator is (2n+1)!. We can write the denominator as [2(1)][2(2)][2(3)][2(4)]...[2(n)]= 2^n n!.
Thanks for the response hallsofivy,

I'm a little confused: the pattern is 6 , (6)(10) , (6)(10)(14) , (6)(10)(14)(18) , ...

And yes it is also 2(3) , 2(3)*2(5) , 2(3)*2(5)*2(7) ect... But writing the General term as (2n+1)!/2^n(n)! Doesn't fit the pattern...
 
You are missing the 2^n in the numerator. You should have
2^n\frac{(2n+1)!}{2^n n!}= \frac{(2n+1)!}{n!}
 
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HallsofIvy said:
You are missing the 2^n in the numerator. You should have
2^n\frac{(2n+1)!}{2^n n!}= \frac{(2n+1)!}{n!}
Ahhh! It's so easy! Thanks, for some reason I just couldn't get it...thanks a lot! It's been a while since I've thought about infinite series
 

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